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Gone With The Whinge
Beginner July 2011

Anybody know about electronic tags?

Gone With The Whinge, 20 April, 2009 at 21:27 Posted on Off Topic Posts 0 8

More novel research. Apologies!

I can't seem to find much about these on google, aside from the whole social implications/"do they work?" debate. Does anybody know the sciency bit behind them? Do they act as tracking devices? What happens if you try to take them off? (I expect they probably don't explode, Battle Royale stylee ?). Is there a way of getting them off?

TIA.

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Latest activity by Jennifer, 27 July, 2024 at 06:31
  • flailing wildly
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    I can't help you on the technology side, I'm afraid, but I did work for a year with a girl who had just come out of prison on a tag, if that helps. As far as I understand, there was a machine fitted at her flat which 'clocked' her in and out - she had to be in by 7pm every evening, or else the machine would send an alert back to the central computer. I can't remember the exact number, but there was an 'allowance' they had for getting in a few moments late, etc - something like 15 mins in 6 months total.

    Her friend, who was also jailed / tagged for the same offence, tried to take her tag off, and any disturbance to them acts in the same way (again, don't know the science behind it, sorry). Effectively it didn't 'clock in' correctly and because she'd tampered with it, she had her licence revoked and was sent back to jail. I'm not sure if the 'machine' at home knew the tag had been tampered with, or whether her worker (I forget the word?) checked it, though.

    Not sure if that's any help? I do know, if this is useful, that as a woman she was very ashamed of having a tag and would never wear skirts because of this.

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  • Pink Han-bag
    Beginner March 2013
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    I've heard of heating them to expand the rubber to get it off but I doubt it would work. They don't act as tracking devices but you have to be in the nominated premises by the set time otherwise it will alert. And I mean inside, can't sit outside for a fag etc either.

    The people you meet as a barmaid ? One of our regulars had one for shoplifting, it didn't exactly deter the crime because he was allowed out 7am-7pm ie when shops are open, I never understood the logic in that one ?

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  • Pink Han-bag
    Beginner March 2013
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    The person I know with a tag is probably well in double figures with offences BUT he's also been inside multiple times so they were obviously trying something different this time. I'm not sure, at that age it seems conceivable but then theft like that is surely a pretty serious offence? Is it combined with rehabilitation/counselling?

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  • Gone With The Whinge
    Beginner July 2011
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    Thanks for your responses, all.

    Thinking about it, I suppose a guide to getting them off probably won't be readily available ? I might have to use some poetic license and make something up...

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  • Bohemian Raspberry
    Beginner July 2009
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    When my OH was 19, he was young and stupid enough to end up with a 7pm - 7am tag curfew. The tag people put a phone in the house which has to stay in the same place and can't be moved. From the phone they set up perimeters in the house determing how far he could go. We were in a ground floor flat and he had to be in the flat all the time though the curfew, if he went past the front or back door, the phone would have sent an alarm back to the tag people saying he wasn't in. AFAIK, they can't be tracked when past the perimeter, they only know the person wearing the tag isn't in when they should be.

    The tag itself can't be removed, unless it's not been fitted properly. They have sensors in them and OH was told that the tag would send a signal back to the phone if he tried to tamper or remove it.

    They also do spot checks, in the 3 months OH had his on they called in 6 times to check the tag and phone. This can be at any time during the curfew and once he got kncoked up at 4am. When they do this, a brand new tag gets fitted.

    It was my OH's first offence Kat, and he was put on a tag or he would have got 12 months community service.

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  • Hello Sunshine
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    I interviewed a teenager last week who had previously had a tag - for a first offence of theft - and she had been able to remove hers. She told me that it was something to do with removing a clip then using a fork to flick part of the strap off (?) and whipping it off fast before joining the strap back together. I've never seen one so I've no idea how this would work in practice. She said if you cut it, it would cut the wires and that would trigger the alarm. When she took hers off she left it somewhere in the house for months apparently and came and went as she pleased. I'm pretty sure she was telling the truth too as her mum was in the room and she didn't dispute it.

    She mentioned that her brother had been on one too and sometimes the alarm would go off even if he was in the house, so the phone would be ringing at all hours with the police wanting to speak to him to check he was actually there.

    I feel a bit weird about writing those details here so I might delete in a bit!

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  • Shree
    Curious March 2019 Karnataka
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    Electronic tags are devices used primarily in the criminal justice system to monitor individuals remotely. They employ technologies such as Radio Frequency (RF) and Global Positioning System (GPS) to track location and ensure compliance with court-imposed conditions like house arrest or curfews. These tags are designed to be tamper-resistant, sending alerts if tampered with, and are often water-resistant to prevent damage. The use of these tags raises important legal and ethical considerations, including privacy issues and the balance between surveillance and rehabilitation. Attempting to remove or tamper with these tags can result in legal penalties.

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