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Ach, AIBU? Should he apologise? updated with the apology...

Pop Up Pundit, 17 May, 2009 at 11:39 Posted on Off Topic Posts 0 9

So, my best friend (of 20 years) came round to watch the Eurovision last night, and we drank wine & had a real giggle. He was drinking really quickly, and before I really realised it, he was actually, suddenly too drunk to talk. He was slurring really badly and struggling to focus. I'd had a few glasses and was not sober, but still in control of myself and had switched to drinking tea anyway. Another friend had popped round for a chat by this point. J (best friend) was by this point slumped on the sofa, grumping and whinging to himself about how drunk he was, so I got him some juice, moved the wine where he couldn't get it & M (the other friend) and I settled in for a good chat.

J periodically interuppted us to complain that we were talking over him and not including him, and that we were picking on him - but not sure what part he expected to play in the conversation, as he was still pretty much unable to talk. He then spilled his juice all over the floor and refused to clean it up as "it didn't matter". I cleaned it up. He was looking very green at this point so I asked him several times to move to the bathroom if he was feeling sick. "Shhhtop picking on me" he would slur. I thought he'd fallen asleep, so left him to it. Fine, M & I carried on chatting, waiting for him to sober up a bit so I could either put him to bed or put him in a taxi home. Then suddenly, he woke up & puked all over himself and my sofa. Gah! Bad enough, but as I cleaned it up, understandably just a leeeeetle pissed off, (not shouting or anything, just being brisk and trying to clear up), he started giving me a hard time for being "uptight" about the situation. Which, apparently "wasn't his fault" as he's "trying really hard" and I "don't understand what pressure he's under" and I'll probably "never let him hear the end of this". Basically, telling me that it was unreasonable to be upset by his behaviour! Thankfully, M had her car with her and was able to give him a lift home. I walked them to the door (as I always do, I double lock it at night) and he whinged at me for "nursemaiding" him and ranted about how patronising I was being ?

Now, I'm not someone who needs everyone to tread on eggshells round them, but I'm owed an apology, amn't I? It's not even just the puking, it was the abuse that went with it. He's been in a strange place the last few months, but I have been helping him & trying my best to keep him upbeat and positive, and I really don't deserve to be told I'm smug. I'm not!! I've had a hell of a couple of years, and my life is finally back in some semblance of order, which I'm understandably pretty pleased about, but I'm hardly shoving it down people's throats...

IANBU. am I?

Just got a text in saying "I am mortified. If I could find a new way of sorry I would".

of course I forgive him, but I do think we need to talk about this and I will certainly be a bit wary of going boozing with him for a while...sheesh <rolls eyes>

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Latest activity by Pop Up Pundit, 17 May, 2009 at 12:14
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    Apology? you deserve years of grovelling, regular flowers and a visit from a man with a steam-cleaner for your sofa, all at your mate's expense. who is he, anyway, bernard black??

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  • Consuela Banana Hammock
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    I'd be expecting an apology too and not just a text! Let us know if you hear from him later today (any later than that would also be unreasonable in my books).

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    You absolutely 100% deserve an apology, but I'm not sure whether demanding one is going to help.

    My brother made a truly spectacular drink-related arse of himself at my wedding, loudly heckling the speeches amongst other social crimes, and while JK was understandably furious at the time, we reckoned that he probably got enough of a rocket from his wife (who was left to look after two toddlers and get everyone home afterwards when he could barely stand, and was visibly Not Amused) for us not to feel the need to stir things up any further.

    So we've never mentioned it again - or at least not to him.

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  • Moose in the Garage
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    What a horrrible evening! No you are not being unreasonable and yes he should apologise but...............do you think he will actually remember his behaviour this morning? If he's as good a friend as you say he will probably be mortified this morning if he does remember. Drink does horrible things to people, removes their inhibitions, makes them behave in a way that is not really "them". If you are already having problems it can make you miserable, angry, have a persecution complex etc etc and exaggerate every bad feeling you have.

    So, yes you are entitiled to an apology but I think you are assuming that he won't give you one because of the things he said last night but give him a chance, you may find that, if he remembers at all, he will be really upset by the way he behaved. His real mistake was in drinking so much to start with - which may well be because of his current problems and trying to forget about them for a while.

    Rather rambling reply as I am watching MOTD2 at the same time but hope you get what I mean.

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    Mmm, thanks guys - I agree I should have an apology coming. It is really out of order. It's just how he seemed to have turned it round in his head that I was the problem - I don't understand ☹️ There's obviously something else going on here that makes me think an apology might not be forthcoming - he seems to be nursing some other grievance about something I have or haven't done....I don't know what though!!

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    He was pi55ed though wasn't he? So whilst I'd be fuming (especially as I don't do sick?) I'd be preapred to forgive once his apology is in. Which I would be expecting by 2pm at the latest.

    If he doesn't apologise, and he really did mean what he said then that's a different matter entirely.

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    Obviously he should apologise, he's behaved really badly.

    I guess if you want to be a really good friend to him, as you think maybe something is brewing in thebackground, f he doesn't remember or makes light of it, you could be really straight with him - point out that not only was he very drunk and made a horrid mess of your house, he was rude and hurtful to you. And is there something he wants to discuss?

    Chances are he won't remember what he said/did but he should be mortified if you jog his memory a bit. If he's arsey about it, I'd be avoiding drinking with him any time in the future, tbh.

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    At this stage I wouldn't take it too personally, he was drunk and yes you do deserve a grovelling apology but the comments may have been more about what's going on in his life rather than directly related to you - you were just there.

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    I would expect a huge gold plated all singing and all dancing apology, and I doubt I would have kept my mouth shut during the evening too

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    The more I think about this, actually, the more I'm fretting about it.

    There's clearly more to it. Why get that drunk? (he does binge a bit, but very very rarely like this). Why lash out at me? I might give M a ring & see what she thinks about it. As I say, I had had a few drinks too, and have had a bit of a difficult week, so might be a bit more sensitive than usual, but really, I don't think this is down to me.

    Moose, Sare, Zeb, you make some good points (and everyone else too). I'm not going to brush this under the carpet, which I can say from 20 years of experience, is exactly what J will want to do. It was rude and hurtful and it's not on. If there's a problem, he needs to tell me & we'll sort it, whatever it is, but this type of acting out is just childish...

    I did not want to spend my Sunday morning repeatedly washing my sofa covers to try to get the vom- smell out of them! On the bright side, they did need washed anyway, I suppose and it's sunny so I can hang them outside <searches desperately for silver lining>

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