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vikki-04/07/09
Beginner July 2009

all of a sudden i feel really sad that i havent got a videographer

vikki-04/07/09, 10 June, 2009 at 10:03

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Im not sure why but i have 3 weeks to go and i feel really deflated that i havent got a videographer & carnt look for one as the budget is blown so much so i have had to borrow some off my mum. am i going to regret thefact i havent got one

Im not sure why but i have 3 weeks to go and i feel really deflated that i havent got a videographer & carnt look for one as the budget is blown so much so i have had to borrow some off my mum. Smiley sad

am i going to regret thefact i havent got one

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  • Spring
    Beginner February 2008
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    Ooh la la i know how you feel so i understand. That is why i also had reportage photos so i wouldn't notice the photographer there as i hate posing.

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  • Houdini
    Beginner August 2010
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    It's ok, no offence was taken ooh la la - and I hope you didn't take offence at what I said!

    Aren't we all being polite today? Hehe!

    Just wanted to put my reasons for having one into the mixing pot!

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  • Spring
    Beginner February 2008
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    Makes a change ?. We've obviously had too much sugar....well i have ?

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  • Houdini
    Beginner August 2010
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    Send some this way Spring! Am trying to be more healthy and it doesn't agree with me! Cous cous for lunch followed by raspberries. All I really fancy is a big bag of Malteasers! ?

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  • N\/ideo
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    Sorry, but I meant I haven't seen a particularly cheesy one in a while. You might find some bad ones on YouTube but I should imagine this is the place where a lot of the amateur efforts are published. I tend to look at other work through the websites of fellow Videographers, as I'm sure everyone else does to be aware of the competition. It is a relatively new service compared to Photography, but as new technology becomes increasingly less expensive and obtainable - allowing appealing cinematic styles to be reproduced, and tried and tested methods to become established - there has been a definite shift in the overall quality in wedding films over the years.

    I had to Google 'poncy/ponce' to try and understand, but since 'an effeminate man' or 'pimp' seemed a bit off I'd assumed you meant 'cheesy' ? Fair enough if you think being filmed is vain then, but consider what I mentioned about Videography being coverage, rather than staged. While traditional Photography often requires that the couple are placed in arranged 'situations' such as holding hands, gazing at each other, kissing etc, Videography merely records what is happening on the day with no manipulation. But if you are even concerned about having a Photographer on the day, I can understand why you would not want any video cameras there to compound things.

    Sorry again if you think I am being defensive, I am - obviously I will speak out in favour my art and profession after it was called a waste of money and a product which can be equalled by relatives waving videophones about instead. As proven, lots of people revisit and share their wedding films for a long time - a professional one looks and sounds much better making it more desirable to see again. Of course this is a discussion forum where all opinions are valid, so I am sure you will understand defending what puts food on my table ?

    Laura: Yes hopefully you will indeed love the video result, and remember it's not every nano-second recorded for all eternity - while I might use 9 hours of tapes to record a full day (not to mention several hours from other cameras), all this is edited down into the most significant, appealing and memorable parts, with the final DVD usually lasting between 45 minutes and an hour-and-a-half depending on what events there are to cover.

    For anyone who is still unsure about getting a video done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piBaf6kXhis ?

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  • hely08
    Beginner September 2009
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    Hi Beccy

    we are paying £300 as we decided on 2 camera operators as he suggested that this will capture more and give a more seamless film ??

    but bascially he charges £75 per camera operator per hour and sorry not in surrey ! hes based in norfolk.

    hely x

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  • Laura_Lee
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    I also googled poncy and this is exactly what I mean; (btw this was the first result so I didn't have to look far)

    poncy https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=poncy

    Someone, something or somewhere which is overpriced, over styled, over rated, or thinks more highly of itself than it deserves.

    "Darling, do you fancy going to that new little Italian place tonight? Nah, it's a bit too poncy for me. I prefer the chip shop".
    I also think you are missing my point. I AM having a video, and therefore by definition keen to have one. Its more the idea of it and how it might appear to guests that you see your wedding as oh so important that I am not keen on.

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  • cheska
    Beginner May 2009
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    Guess what has just arrived - my wedding DVD!!! Lets see where I stand on this discussion in a few hours!

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  • Lynseys Designs
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    I totally agree with Spring and RaeF 100%. I love my pictures don't get me wrong but I'm desperate for my dvd for a few reasons. They capture more emotion than a camera, means you can listen to the speeches again, see yourself walking down the aisle and the look on the grooms face, see guests arrive etc etc etc (I could go on for hours).

    I don't remember the speeches or walking down the aisle much and the dvd is the only thing that will give me those memories of what happened. Also because BWC was singing at night we get to listen to her again because we spent so much time talking to guests we didn't really have a chance to appreciate her wonderful talent. We have looked at the pictures and wondered why we are laughing so the dvd will tell us. We also had messages recorded from our guests and a few people said it took them a few takes to do because they kept laughing so again more emotion captured.

    I don't remember seeing our dvd person much either which is why we booked him after all. They don't need to be in your face to be capturing the day.

    I would totally regret not having a dvd and can't wait to see it. I'm not a vain person at all, hate my voice on camera and don't like being the centre of attention but do want to remember the best day of my life as for us this was the best way to do that.

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  • teeheeyoucrazyguys!
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    OH doesnt want one. He'd rather not know every little detail and just remember what is important to him and to us. We do have a hand held digi that we might give to one of the guests to film the event but a profesh is an expense we could do without. Our tog can put stills to music which we like also so we might ask him to do that at some point.

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  • Snow Patroller
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    I kinda know what the OP means .... I had never considered having my UK do videoed - mainly due to having suffered at the hands of a vid-tog at a friends wedding about 5 years ago when she drove me absolutely insane....

    At one point she actually followed me into the bathroom (wtf!!!) when I was trying to have a private conversation with the brides mother as it was the only way to not have every word you were saying captured for all time! ... I gave her a look and it actually made it onto the bloody wedding video! She was hanging around everyone the whole time with this huge 'frame' thing like a baby carrier strapped to her shoulders, holding the camera so it hardly made her 'melt into the background'. If she wasn't poking her camera in your face during the meal, she was insisting on getting messages for the bride and groom constantly and it just got annoying. (I'm not tarring all vid togs with this brush but it put me off good and proper!)

    BUT having seen the footage of the stuff guests took at my UK do, I DO wish I'd asked someone (not a professional!) to film stuff so it captured more of the day. As it is I have about 15mins worth from 2 people and its hardly riviting stuff... the ceremony consists of the back of my husband and about a 2 second glimpse of me as I shifted a tad at some point! But the bits that are good (albeit short!) have made me regret not having some of it on film. I would say its worth asking a friend or two if they'd mind taking some stuff during the day if they have a little video cam ....

    I was lucky enough to have my overseas wedding filmed by the hotel manager on our camera and she did a pretty decent job - and whilst its very rough round the edges, it perfectly captures the day (if not what we're saying due to the sea breeze!) .... and whilst I have hundreds of photos of the day too, the video really does add something to the memory bank.

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  • N\/ideo
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    The device she was using was likely a 'glidecam' - its purpose is to stabilise the camera as the operator walks around with it, which makes for smoother and more professional-looking 'moving' shots than straightforward handheld, and as a livelier alternative to fixed tripod-based coverage.

    But, from your story it sounds like this particular Videographer may have been taking a few liberties on the day. If there is time and space to strap on a glidecam and the situation is suitable then it can be a nice accessory to compliment the look of the video. However to gain the benefits of the device, it requires closing in on the subjects - if there is a pre-discussion where the operator explains about the glidecam and everyone is aware of a short period where the camera will be in closer proximity for the benefit of the video, then it's usually no problem with the results outweighing the brief period of 'intrusion'.

    Not all day, though. Perhaps that Videographer felt the need to act like some kind of roving reporter to provide a service. Probably good intentioned, but 'hanging/following people around' is not really good practice for a start, and filming people eating is generally a no-no. This is why we have considerate vantage points and zoom lenses, and a good instinct for turning the camera on something interesting, but also knowing when to retreat from situations where people are less easy going or filming doesn't feel right. You might get a few bemused looks on the day from certain people sensing the camera is on them, but you also get loads of winks, smiles, pulling of daft faces etc and these natural gestures are always warmly received when they appear in the DVD. Video messages/wellwishes to camera are fine if someone wants to offer them, but again there should be no pressure as they are not everyone's cup of tea.

    Also, it's important to note that - from my company's point of view at least - the purpose of sound recording is to provide, for the most part, an atmospheric backing track on the DVD, while the couple's choice of music mainly soundtracks the action. Some people might understandably fear that everything they say while caught on camera will be heard in the video. We never feature private conversations in videos (and instinctively don't record them in the first place), and apart from obviously the Ceremony and Speeches only bring in people's voices briefly on certain poignant occasions - usually amusing moments.

    "I also think you are missing my point. I AM having a video, and therefore by definition keen to have one. Its more the idea of it and how it might appear to guests that you see your wedding as oh so important that I am not keen on"

    Fair enough. But worth considering is that we live in a time now where everyone seems to be casually filming everyone else, if not on cheap and user-friendly camcorders then with video-phones (not to mention on CCTV!). As annoying as it may be that many folk seem compelled to make videos of anything random these days, it does I think lessen the possibility of people thinking you are vain for having your wedding filmed professionally.

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  • bookgirl
    Dedicated June 2007
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    We booked one after having decided not to. H and I hate having photos taken or being recorded but I really wanted a record of the day. I'm so glad we did - I love the bits of us girls getting ready in the morning, seeing the guests chatting and laughing before the service, and afterwards, when H and I were having photos done.

    There were a couple of brilliant moments in the service which cracked us all up and I'm so pleased they are on camera - we weren't allowed photos. I also didn't really remember that much of the speeches so seeing them again was fab. I still occasionally cringe watching myself but I don't regret it ... every so often I just watch the 3 min montage to cheer myself up!

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  • Lynseys Designs
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    Teehee the thing with me is that I was so nervous that I don't remember the important bits and from speaking to a lot of couples they are in the same position and the dvd is the only way of actually having those memories. I was concentrating so much on being able to say my vows clearly that I didn't really listen to them if that makes sense and I don't remember a thing about walking down the aisle or much about the speeches!!!

    My husband (feels so weird saying that) was extremely nervous which I find hard to believe and can't wait to see the dvd to see how he really was. A few funny things happened as well whilst the guests were waiting for me to arrive and I'd never be able to experience those bits without the dvd. It will be good to see the day how guests did.

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  • cheska
    Beginner May 2009
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    Ok so we have watched ours now!

    ours was only £500 so I wouldn't say it will be winning any awards but it has captured what we wanted which was the ceremony, speeches and everyone having a great time. It was great to see the day from another angle and also to analyse how I looked! Its a real video so the shoe fiasco is on there as is the mic breaking during the BM's speech. H was dreading watching his speech but he did it and we both had a wee tear at it. Its longer than we expected it to be (2.5 hours) so can see us watching bits and pieces of it over and over and skippng through the less exciting bits.

    I don't think i will ever love watching myself on camera, H is the same, but we made it through the whole DVD so can't be that bad!!

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  • N\/ideo
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    This is right - filming from a second camera angle at the same time allows your film to be constructed in a far more appealing way, since in the editing stage the Videographer can cut back and forth between - during the ceremony for example - the Bride and Groom as they make their vows, exchange rings etc.

    Since a second camera can be 'cut-to' during editing while the other re-frames the shot or adjusts focus, it also goes a long way towards keeping a natural flow to the proceedings without sudden cuts or fade-throughs that would be necessary with just one camera.

    And, having more than one camera present means that your film can show events happening in two places at once. While one operator films the Bride arriving for example, another can be inside the venue capturing the Groom and guests taking their seats and waiting.

    Sometimes we even employ a discreet third camera if the venue is suitable/large enough - this often sits at the back [usually unmanned] to record everything in a wider angle, again allowing excellent angling options during editing and ensuring a professional, seamless look to the finished film.

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  • ooh la la
    Beginner August 2013
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    If we were to get one, which I very much doubt we would (- as you would have already guessed!) I would have this company do it....http://www.reel60.com/

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