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Beginner December 2007

Any accountants/finance people about? Really need business help!

Julia., 6 July, 2009 at 15:25 Posted on Off Topic Posts 0 7

First of all, I am AAT qualified, and I'm studying ACCA, but I've spent my entire working life in public practice, and have no idea about businesses. I'm trying to learn fast, but there's just one issue I can't get my head around, and would love some help, if possible.

My husband, a friend and I are wanting to set up a photography business which will be a LLP. The main issue that we have is that my husband and I own most of the equipment that is needed, and we want to 'sell' this to the partnership. We have some debt that is connected with buying the equipment, and we don't want the partnership to have any loans etc, so the business would be paying H and I back over a period of time, depending on the income that we bring in.

So is it possible to do this? If so, how? I keep reading about how it is possible to claim capital allowances on purchases, but this doesn't apply to equipment that has been purchased before the business exists. There are writing down allowances too, but for short life assets, and I'm not sure if this applies.

I'm loathe to go to an accountant on the high street and pay for advice as I feel I should know this! I'm quite upset with myself that I can't figure out what's the best thing to do!

I'm writing this in a big hurry, so I apologise if I've left out important information, and I really hope that you are able to help. Even suggestions for things that I haven't mentioned/thought about would be welcome. I don't want the debt to belong to us anymore, I want it to belong to the business. I want rid!

Thank you!

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Latest activity by Julia., 7 July, 2009 at 13:18
  • J
    Beginner December 2007
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    Something I forgot to mention, I'm trying to work this in the best way possible so that our tax liability is as little as possible!

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  • Carrie74
    Beginner June 2007
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    I really would recommend you see an accountant. However, you can transfer your assets (equipment) into the partnership, where it will be treated as an addition, and you can therefore claim capital allowances. What this means is that when your profits are calculated, instead of reducing them by the amount depreciated on your equipment, you can actually claim 100% in the first year as an annual investment allowance (AIA), but then you will have written off all your equipment in one year, so there will be no writing down allowances in subsequent years (unless you invest in more equipment).

    I can't recommend an accountant enough, especially as you're going into partnership with an outside party. You'll get very good advice - just because you're studying ACCA, it's hard to have the day to day knowledge of ways to reduce your tax bill that an accountant who deals with this day in day out will. For example, depending on your projections, it may well make sense to form a company, and pay yourself dividends and basic salary - this would mean no income tax, and only 10% tax on your dividends, but the company taxed at 21% (which is obviously more desirable than if you're a 40% tax payer). There are lots of variables - speak to someone who knows it like the back of their hand.

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  • Ice Queen
    Beginner January 2007
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    Why are you setting up an LLP instead of a limited company? I would talk to someone about this before you go down this route, as it is mainly suited to professionaly partnerships, like solicitors

    You should invoice the company for your assets, the other side of this will go to a loan account

    Capital allowances will be available on these

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  • J
    Beginner December 2007
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    Thank you Carrie and Ice Queen, and sorry for not replying sooner.

    We didn't want to set up just a partnership because of being liable for each other's debts, but I'm uncertain about setting up a limited company because of the extra paperwork involved. It am aware that LLPs are more suited to accountants and solicitors, but I guess this is what I need advice on.

    I've looked for accountants near by and there seems to be some good ones, so hopefully I'll get the answers I need.

    Thanks for making me see sense!

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  • Redbedhead
    Beginner August 2006
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    Julia. I seem to remember you are in the Milton Keynes area? If so, I can recommend some accountants that may be able to help you.

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  • Ice Queen
    Beginner January 2007
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    In my experience every client who originally thought an LLP was a good idea has now converted to a limited company. Yes there is more work, but ultimately there is more flexibility in terms of tax planning

    In a partnership all profits are taxable by the partners, whereas in a Ltd company you can choose what you extract, and whilst all profits are taxable corporation tax rates are lower, and dividends are not taxable unless your income exceeds higher rate tax

    Email me if you want *****@*****.**.**

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  • Knownowt
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    I agree with Ice Queen. The only reason solicitors and accountants use LLPs is that they're not allowed to operate as limited companies; a company structure is much more flexible and, TBH, there's not that much extra admin compared to an LLP.

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  • J
    Beginner December 2007
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    Redbedhead, yes I am, we've met once! It turns out that my friend has a family friend who is a partner in a big accounting firm based in Leighton Buzzard, so I think we might be trying him first. She'd never mentioned him before as she didn't think that we would need him!

    Thank you, Ice Queen and Knownowt, again, you all make sense and I will definitely be seeking advice rather than trying to muddle through on my own.

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