Bunny friendly make up

Really?

The link seems to suggest that most companies no longer test their products on animals therefore you have plenty of really luxurious brands to choose from.

Sorry, I should have clarified that I'd ideally like a brand where I can go and try out the stuff (i.e. a counter) before the day - most of the turquoise and blue in there are not those.

In general I think it's a shame about the amount of red and orange on that chart.

I don't get the 'if the law requires it' bit. Under what circumstances would this apply? And if the law truly does require it under certain circumstances surely no company would be exempt?

Sorry, I realise you probably don't have the answers to those questions but I'm intrigued!

I'm also shocked at how many companies L'Oreal now own.

To be honest that list is somewhat misleading and borderline slanderous

To give you an example

Christian Dior and their parent company state

"In 1989, our laboratories made public their decision not to use animals in the testing of products to be put on the market. The double demand, consumer safety and respect of animal life, has encouraged our laboratories to carry on research projects with universities and to participate in the development and validation of alternative methods to animal testing."

"[The] various brands of the LVMH Perfumes and Cosmetics business group no longer use animal testing to evaluate the safety of cosmetic products"

Yet the site has the company listed as a company with an ambiguous policy?? err doesn't sound ambiguous to me, they state they don't test their products on animals and are investing time and money in non animal research!! Do they need their policy written in blood?

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I work in product testing, generally manufacturers don't test their end products on animals but they buy components/ingredients that may have been tested on animals at some point before purchase. so majority of PRODUCTS are not tested on animals, doesn't mean ingredients aren't.

If you use MAC at the moment then I assume anything coloured in the same purple colour to them is acceptable for you? There's a huge list on there that should fit your requirements.

That list is bollocks, trust me.

China quite recently decided that they would only allow cosmetics brands to sell there if they agreed to test their products on animal if required by the authorities. That is why companies like MAC and Urban Decay, who as a rule don't test, are now in red, as they have decided to continue selling in China. The trouble is that China is such a big market that a lot of big brands have decided they can't afford not to do this.

They''re in red, due to the China issue explained above. The MAC products i own I bought before that declaration (as I said, I don't wear make up usually apart from special occasions). Obviously I won't waste it by chucking it now, but I'd rather not buy any more from them.

Ahh, thanks.

I've not looked at the link yet but soap & glory or lush don't test on animals (although from what funky says a lot more don't than what I thought originally) but I use soap & glory anyway, could maybe try out their counters in boots?

I have highlighted the key word in that sentence.

Is there any evidence to suggest authorities have made such a request?

Thanks, I will do.

And Lush don't test no. But they do other things https://mitheringsfrommorningside.wordpress.com/

Bare Minerals might work? It's in blue/turquoise on the list, and they have counters in big department stores (OH had to drag me away from one the other day!). Like you, I don't wear much make up and was worried about MUA making me look like an orange clown (I'm very fair and they always try to darken in my eyebrows!). I tried Bare Essentials at the National Wedding Show, and am completely converted. It is really easy to apply and feels really light to wear, apparently it is good for your skin too. It might be worth a try anyway. x

Thanks, one of my bridesmaids also suggested this, and there is a counter at Debenahms so we're heading there on Sat!

I think this can be an on the spot type thing, and can also refer to the state authorities as well as national.

Hope it goes well! Let us know. ?

This is such a minefield, especially when you take into account the mining conditions the workers that extract mica (the shimmery mineral in a whole load of make up) live in

If you are looking for ethical, it might be better to avoid more shimmery colours

China have a legal requirement that cosmetics are tested on animals before sale. It is viewed as unnecessary and likely to change in the next few years.

I hope the OP is not typing her posts on a Chinese-made computer. While wearing clothes made in China. Or....well, you get my point.

I'm not sure how trustworthy that list is; there are a couple of companies that have almost exactly the same wording and yet one is supposedly OK and the other ambiguous?! There's also a couple that seem entirely straightforward to me but are classed as ambiguous.

As for the legal requirement bit there are a couple (including Clinique which is one of my faves as a rare wearer of makeup) where they make it clear they would only test on animals if there was no other alternative within the law - I'm not sure what else could be expected of worldwide companies.

I feel that if I can make a decision that points towards a more ethical production process, then I should make that one. It is impossible to do that for everything, but if I can, I will.

And yes, I eat meat, use products from China (I can't really be too picky about wheelchair parts!) and I'm sure a lot of other discrepancies. But with make up, I can take a stand.

This is exactly what I was just going to add. It can be very misleading. I always look for the BUAV leaping bunny logo that way I know for sure that both the end product AND ingredients have never been tested on animals.

Here's the logo for those who don't know what they're looking for, there are many other bunny logos that are similar so be careful.

Link to the website in case anyone is interested in learning more, there is a link for the Animal Free Shopper which lists all of the companies that are BUAV approved. I think this is a more reliable list than the one originally posed if you want to be truly cruelty free www.buav.org

I've chosen my MUA based on the fact she uses Body Shop products - which are actually really good and as someone who doesn't wear much make up, I didn't feel like I needed luxury make up. I know I can trust Body Shop for not testing on animals. Bought some concealer from Bare Minerals too.

Unfortunately Body shop is owned by L'oreal, who do test on animals, therefore although Body shop themselves don't test the money from the items from body shop go to L'oreal who do test.

I am a cruelty free user too, I used to adore Urban Decay but like Body shop they sold out to L'oreal, so now I don't use their stuff either.

Lily Lolo are a brilliant cruelty free alternative. https://www.lilylolo.co.uk/

Also the new range from Super Drug B. is also great, in my opinion. http://www.superdrug.com/b-is-for-beautiful/about-b/page/about_b

M&S's own make up is also cruelty free so worth a look and BUAV approved.

For more information see here http://www.gocrueltyfree.org/shopper

Also feel free to message me

Check out Obsessive compulsive cosmetics (www.lovemakeup.co.uk) the whole brand is completely vegan. I swear by their Skin Tint - I use it on 50% of my brides. Juliet x

big fan of body shop make-up here too. The shampoo is also the only thing I don't like either. I use there make-up alongside premium brand stuff and would say in most cases it's as good as, and in some cases it's better than the more expensive alternatives.

Check out Obsessive compulsive cosmetics (www.lovemakeup.co.uk) the whole brand is completely vegan. I swear by their Skin Tint - I use it on 50% of my brides. Juliet x