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Super January 2012

Desperate situation - Going Home. Final update.

Peaches, 3 November, 2008 at 12:57 Posted on Off Topic Posts 0 154

Things have come to a head with my brother and I'm flying back to the UK tonight. I've called the crisis team at his surgery and the Doctor has been out to see him. I fear for his life - he just wants 'to go to sleep and not wake up'

I'll be in the UK tomorrow morning, but in the meantime I'm panicking he's going to be ok.

Not quite sure why I'm posting, other than you've been a rock to me when I've posted about this before.

I feel so helpless from here - especially when he's calling day and night in such a state ?

Update ...

Well I'm here, and he is worse than I thought. I can't be long as he's just popped out and then we're going to the solicitors. He's not eaten in days. Mum brought him a dinner round last night but he won't touch it. I've caught him drinking. He doesn't want to see the counsellor (which is tough as I'm taking him). He's skinny again. His house is filthy - tidy, but filthy. And so much more I don't have time to write about. Mum found him on the floor last night huddled over his coffee table sobbing his heart out.

I really hope I'm strong enough to deal with this. I really don't know that I am. I need the counsellor for me, never mind him!

Have to dash ...

Small progress ...

The change in my brother since Tuesday when I arrived is huge. Yesterday he ate the lunch I made, and a full dinner last night. It was wonderful to see, and he openly said that only 2 days previously he couldn't have contemplated looking at it.

He is on the ADs and also Diazepam 3 times a day and they seem to be helping. He is much calmer and can actually sit still now, although not for too long. He even has had the odd moment when he has smiled and laughed at some funny videos he was emailed. Good news on that front.

As for the drinking - his cheeks are not as red which is a sure indication of a heavy drinker. In fact, yesterday looking at him I felt I had my brother back. But I'm under no illusion this is over. I'm going to be going home, and when I'm not here he will be alone again. I'm afraid he will turn back to the drink. Yesterday I found an empty water bottle in his office which smelt of scotch, so I threw it away. And also threw away the glass of wine I found in his fridge. My/his counsellor has said to not confront him about it as it will only get him to hide more, so I've not mentioned it again other than reading his medication packets where they say to not operate machinery, not to drive if sleepy and avoid alcohol. Didn't say any more.

Last night he sat and wrote a long email to his wife. She has said she wants an end to the relationship as she feels he is in such dire straits it will impact on her and her home. After sitting with the accountant yesterday it's very obvious that that is not the case. Once the property is sold he will be very solvent. Far less so than if he had sold all the years ago when we said he should have (seeing it killing him emotionally, physically and financially).

But we are where we are and he will be able to buy them both a house when this is all done. Or himself if she is adament.

Reading his letter to her last night made me cry. He is at last opening up and admitting his mistakes. He has made many along the way - keeping things from her, but to protect her. Which was wrong. And he knows that now.

He's told her about the Dr. The tablets. The counsellor. The fact that he isn't well. This in itself is a huge admission I think.

Anyway, we're about to get ready to go out for the day to the Cotswolds. We both love it there and the change of scene will do him the world of good.

And next week we'll put in place all the contacts he needs should he get ill again. Or should I say worse, as he is still ill. It's not all over by any chalk.

Thank you again for all your support, FB messages, emails and posts on here. It really, really did help last week. I still can't talk to family/friends about this. It's still early days.

I'm going to see the counsellor for myself too on Tuesday as it's been very, very hard dealing with this. Watching someone you love like this is, well, you can imagine. Brother found me on my bed crying on Wednesday. I think seeing me upset actually made me realise he was cared for and that it does affect the rest of us.

Anyway, out into the cold and drizzle we go!

FINAL UPDATE - GOING HOME

Hi everyone

Just wanted to give you a quick update on my brother before I crash out.

We have been to hell and back this past week. Both of us. But without going into all the nitty gritties, and by-passing all the tears, the lows and the very lows, he is now on the road to recovery. Thank. God.

I've done what I can and I've told him the choices are his. He has a very, very (and rare, I think) good Doctor who doesn't collude with him, is straight with him, but also empathic. She is there for him to go to when he is feeling ill. And she is prescribing anti-depressants, some other calming tablets and sleeping tablets. She has said that if he doesn't go and see her regularly, she will stop the prescriptions which will mean he will get ill again. She will then go and see him, and if he is anywhere near the state he was in when I called from the US, she will make a judgement call at that moment, but very likely she will section him. He didn't come with me to see her on Monday (understandably as he had just had a call from his wife confirming that she definitely wanted the relationship to end). He was distraught, but she gave me the prescription anyway. We are going tomorrow morning and he wants to thank her for all she did for him last week, and her follow up too. Considering how much we can slate the NHS sometimes, she was pure gold, and if I hadn't been able to get on the first plane over here, he would have been dealt with by all the professionals. They were/are amazing.

He also has an excellent counsellor. We both went to see him together last Tuesday. Brother was restless, couldn't sit still, didn't want to be there ...

He wasn't going to go today, but I asked him to go for me. He went, and had a great session. As he is on the ADs and Diazepam he was calmer, able to rationalise and see that this 'shrink' was doing some good. So that's his 'head' help (my words, not his)

And on Thursday we are going to meet with his new advocate. I worked with this guy when I was advocating for people with learning disabilities. All the time I was there I thought 'X would be able to do so much good for my brother ... ', but the time wasn't right back then. Brother would never have admitted he needed help. X was an accountant for a very prestigious firm, so he knows his stuff on that side. But more than anything, he will be able to help him regarding his mental health as X too suffered from depression. So much so he was sectioned himself twice. We had a good 2 hour chat this morning and I know he will be able to help my brother immensely. X also has a drink problem (although he doesn't drink now, but still says it's a problem - I guess it never goes away). I've talked to my brother about X and he is very happy to know that he will go with him to meetings with the solicitor regarding the sale of his business, help him with any financial stuff, legal stuff, business stuff. Even the mundane stuff like opening letters with him if it all gets too much and he puts them in a pile (as he has done, and I guess we all do when things get on top of us).

So, it's time for me to go home now.

I have given him my all. I'm am physically, emotionally and mentally drained. I need to sleep (not been sleeping, even with OTC pills). I need my husband terribly. And I need my cats.

Thank you all for your kind, kind words and your advice and wisdom last week when I had no-one else to turn to. I cried many tears, and there will still be more to come, but we're getting there.

Oh, and as for Mum. We have set boundaries with her now. And we will reaffirm those on Thursday afternoon when we (brother and me) meet up with her. We are going to tell her he has his GP, his counsellor and his Advocate. All he wants and needs her to be is a Mum. And nothing more.

And he has Mr P and I too. At the end of the phone.

We'll be ok. I hope ?

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Latest activity by SophieM, 12 November, 2008 at 10:38
  • jelly baby
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    Oh gosh Peaches, I hope he is getting the support he needs until you can get here. Thinking of you and your family.

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  • Iris
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    How worrying for you, you must be frantic. Hope he gets the help he needs soon.

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    Sorry to hear things are so bad peaches - will be thinking of you and hoping for a good outcome from your visit and that your brother gets the help he needs ?

    take care

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    Nightmare - I am so sorry you're ggoing through this ?

    Is his wife with him? Anyone who can be with him until you get there?

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    Peaches, no idea of the background on this but wanted to send you - and your brother - vibes. It sounds like you are both having a really bad time ... thinkin of you lots.

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    So sorry that you are all going through this. I hope your brother gets the support he needs.

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  • LouM
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    Oh Peaches, what a terrible situation. I really hope that he gets the help he needs and that things seem more positive by the time you arrive here. I'll be thinking of you. ?

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    So sorry Peaches, it makes you feel so helpless when you're so far from home.

    Thinking of you and your family x

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    ?Hugs to you! So sorry to hear about all the trouble, I hope your brother will get the help he needs and that all will be well soon. Have a safe trip over ?

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    Your brother is so lucky to have you. Hope he gets the help he needs and things start to get a bit brighter soon.

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    Oh no peaches, that's awful, how worrying for you!

    I think I've missed a chunk of this, is his wife not around? Is there anyone that could stay with him until you get here?

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  • Ice Queen
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    Oh honey - how awful for you - I thought things had settled down with him a bit ?

    I wish I could help - is there anything I can do to help?

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  • Peaches
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    I'm on the phone to him now trying to keep him lucid.

    His wife left him a month after they married. He's alone right now .... apart from me on the phone

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  • Ice Queen
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    You said that the doctor has been out - what was their assessment?

    Has he got any friends that can be with him until you arrive?

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    oh no - didnt realise this

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    I'm so sorry Peaches, I hadn't realised things had taken such a sad turn.

    ? Safe flight over.

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  • Peaches
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    Oh hell, I'm off the phone now and thankfully he is sounding a bit better.

    The Dr gave him citalopram and zopicione - 2 tablets of each only for fear he'd take them all at once. "#14 for 4 bloody tablets" he said! So I told him tomorrow I'll get him more as the Dr will know I'll be there to dispense them to him.

    I can't get hold of my Mum. She's living in some fantasy world flitting after a man 20 years her junior who lives in France and is still married. What a friggin nightmare eh. I don't know where she is right now and she doesn't know I'm going back, and she is probably the last person who he will turn to as she is as much of a problem to him as my (my - not his) Dad was when he was alive.

    I've got to get practical now and get packed. Mr P has stopped home this morning, but has to go in as he's got big meetings this afternoon.

    We nearly came to blows over it all yesterday .. I ended up so distressed I was screaming at him and pushing him. We can't go on like this either. The only way we could deal with it in the end was to separate for a few hours, which helped calm me down.

    Why am I telling you all this????

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    Oh dear peaches i hope hes going to be ok

    do you or he have any friends who can go round there ?

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    He's been so insular over the years Cariad that he doesn't have any close, close friends who he can turn to.

    I think he is in a better place right at this moment knowing I'm coming, although initially it made him worse - cost, putting me out, yada yada ....

    What cost a life though, eh?

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    Peaches, as you say you can't let it affect you, MrP and your marriage like this. Obviously you want to help and you love him, and I think you are doing the right thing coming over today, but at the end of the day he's an adult and this situation is to a great extent of his own making.

    You need to take care of you, lovely.

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    I agree with this, though I know it is very hard. If there's anything at all I can do to help please let me know

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    Have you got a friend who you can send round or would it make things worse

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    Oh thank you guys, I'm welled up again. I know I need to protect my marriage - for it to get to the point it did yesterday, Christ, it was awful. I completely lost it. I've never screamed so loud or pushed anyone before. At least being in the UK I'll be able to DO something.

    I'll land at 9.35 then pick up a hire car and get to him around lunchtime. He has an appointment with the solicitors (re: business sale) at 4.30 and an appointment with my counsellor at 6, and asked me to go to both with him. That's a step forward.

    Thank you for being at the end of a computer. I've not told any of Mr P's family, or even my friends in the UK until the middle of the night last night for fear of troubling and worrying them, but they all know now. And, of course, they're all worried now ☹️

    It was so hard on both of us putting on a brave face and saying that brother and his new wife were so happy, and things were ok. Gah. Terrible strain.

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    Oh Peaches, I'm so sorry to hear this, I had been hoping that your brother was starting to find his feet and settle his life a little. You give so much to him and he is very very lucky to have a sister like you but please don't forget you need time to look after yourself and Mr Peaches too.

    Hope the journey over isn't too awful, i'm sure having you there will be a great comfort to your brother. ?

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    You're telling us all of this because you may just loose it yourself if you don't. There's nothing worse than being torn between helping a loved one and protecting yourself but I think you're making the right decision right now. Much though I'm rather hard hearted in these things and think your brother has gone well past the point of it being perfectly reasonable for you to have turned your back he really doesn't have anyone other than you and I think you don't have it in you to say this particular crisis is the final straw and you're not coming to his rescue.

    I truly hope you get him though this but I think once this is over you need to asses if there is any real chance of him getting his life on track or how much you're prepared to give up to be picking him up in the future.

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    Flip, Peaches, I had no idea she left him after only a month - what a nightmare. Safe trip over here and if you need anything while you're here, jump online and I'm sure the Hitched community can help. ?

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    Oh Peaches, I don't know what to say, Im so sorry your having to deal with all this, your such a good person ?

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    You're quite right Lobster, and yes I do need to look after myself and my own marriage, but like you said it's the right thing to do at this precise moment. I've lost count of how many phone calls there have been since my last post ... brother, counsellor, Mum. Mum .. hell, she's another issue all together. I couldn't talk to her in the end and passed the phone to Mr P to deal with her.

    I've made a double appointment with the counsellor as there is too much stuff to go through in an hour. But it clashes with the solicitor's meeting, so I'll have to address that when I'm there tomorrow.

    Brother has had the Drs on the phone over and over again since I called the crisis team, and the Dr went to see him to give him the anti-deps, and sleeping tablets. When he kept telling them he was ok, they sent "two men in suits and briefcases" round from the psychiatric unit to make sure he hadn't topped himself.

    He is worried to death his wife will hear about all this and right him off completely as a nutcase. And he's also worried it will affect his visa to get into Australia.

    All things I can work through with him tomorrow and onwards.

    Trying to get my sh!t together. Dropping everything and going means making calls and sorting through paperwork this end. That'll teach me for not being up-to-date with my paperwork & accounts!

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    I couldn't open up on here CBH for fear of people who know me reading this. And they will now. But it's gone too far now to keep a lid on everything.

    Mind you, I need support too, and as Lobster said, if I don't talk myself I'll end up losing it .. which I did yesterday. Yesterday was not a good day for any of us. It frightened me when I snapped. I've never, ever hit or shoved or pushed anyone before, or shouted F-OFF in their face like I did to Mr P. Over and over and over again. And sobbed. And sobbed even more. Awful.

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    Do you have somewhere to stay? spare room availalbe if you need it.

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    Thanks Pikasue, that's lovely of you to offer a spare room.

    He doesn't know it yet, but I'll be staying with him. He was on the phone to us all night (UK time) and then our night too, so he's not sleeping. I'll need to be with him to make sure he's taking his sleeping tablets and his ADs. I can't stay with Mum .. I think I'd get too frustrated with her right at this moment. I can only stay with her when Mr P is with me to keep me sane!

    No doubt I'll be online while I'm there and I have no doubt at all I'll be posting just to have someone neutral to 'talk' to. Mr P has his plate full with mega work stuff, so as much as he's very involved with all this, he has the added worries / stresses of work.

    What a mess.

    Trying to sort a hire-car out right now. Well, the insurance as my US credit cards don't cover it, but Mr P's do. Of course, he's not coming.

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