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Beginner July 2004

How would you approach this? Work Related

cazzabob, 22 November, 2012 at 14:57 Posted on Off Topic Posts 0 16

Off the record, I have been told I am getting a 5% pay rise. I have been in the company for about 18 months now. I am truly grateful for any pay rise at all, seeing as jobs are so hard to come by right now!

There are discussions going on about taking on another member of staff to work in our warehouse. He has told me today that he is going to be getting £10 per hour! what I find a bit frustrating is that I have been here for 18 months and practically run the office and he has been here 5 minutes and coming in at £10 per hour. I am currently getting £8.50 per hour and with my 5% rise, it will be £8.92 per hour.

I have my annual review in a couple of weeks, and that's when I will officially be told about the 5% rise. How would you raise this, if you were in my situation and without upsetting the apple cart!!

Thanks in advance

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Latest activity by raincloud, 22 November, 2012 at 22:27
  • *PinkBerry*
    Beginner September 2013
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    Eeeeek tricky, are you sure he is coming in on the £10 per hour and isn't just saying that? Or is he with an agency? Some temps don't get holiday pay but get extra per hour I think.

    Is he doing exactly the same job as you? If he is and he is getting paid more that surely cannot be right? Maybe someone from a HR point of view can help... Id be weary of bringing it up until you can be sure he is getting more wages than you!

    Good Luck!!

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  • ForTheLoveOfMrsBrown
    Beginner January 2012
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    If he's doing a different job to you, I'm not sure you'd have grounds for complaint. He may have different levels of responsibility, different assessments of risk, higher market demand etc.

    Are you sure it's not a bit of showing off?

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  • C
    Beginner July 2004
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    He is currently working self employed but is going onto contract as a permanent member of staff. When I was talking to him a little while ago, he said he wouldn't go onto contract unless he got £10 per hour. He would then also get holiday and sick pay too.

    I feel really sad that they value him at £10 per hour and me at just under £9.00 per hour when I have practically built up the office, from nothing!! He works in the warehouse and I run the office. I know the two jobs don't compare but if anything, I would say I had more responsibility as when the boss is out, I manage him and the tasks he has to do!!

    They would also be really mortified if they knew I was feeling this way as I know they truly value me, but obviously not as much as the warehouse person!

    ☹️

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  • Missus S
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    Tis just the way some businesses run. If you do different roles you won't have an argument. I worked in an office and my role was a necessity, it kept the business running smoothly, people wouldn't get paid If I didn't do wages etc. I was pennies above minimum wage. The builders and plumbers I paid were on £10-£15 an hour with bonuses ? I agree its not fair though

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  • kharv
    Beginner March 2012
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    You don't have a legal standing so whether you bring it up or not would depend on how well you think it will be received.

    If you genuinely think you should be on a comparable wage, and you think you can talk honestly about it with your boss then maybe mention it but be prepared for the usual gumpf about it being a different job, requiring different skills etc.

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  • Hollies
    Beginner December 2018
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    Just the way it is sometimes I'm afraid.

    Before going back into education OH worked in a warehouse and he was paid £12.50 an hour. My salaried position now works out less per hour than that, and I run all of purchasing for the company.

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  • HatTrick
    Beginner September 2010
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    So essentially you would be asking for an 18% Payrise rather than a 5% one? I think I can guess what your employers response would be.

    You do different jobs, it sucks but it's just the way things are. Personally I'd take the 5% and be grateful. You don't know for sure how much the other guy earns and unless he's in a similar role you don't really have an argument.

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  • C
    Beginner July 2004
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    Thanks for all your replies. Wouldn't the fact that I manage him count for anything though? surely he can't earn more than me, when I manage him and his tasks/jobs?? That's like me earning more than my boss ?

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  • kharv
    Beginner March 2012
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    Are you actually his line manager though?

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  • ForTheLoveOfMrsBrown
    Beginner January 2012
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    I don't think so.

    Why would it? Otherwise, every PA would get paid more than the surgeon they work for.

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  • Saisi
    Beginner June 2011
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    I would leave him out of it and upon being told 'officially' about my pay rise, maybe say something like the following:

    "I am grateful for this recognition of my hard work over the past x months. However, I do feel that a pay rise to take me to £x per hour / a pay rise of x% would be more commensurate with the value I have brought to the company. In the past year / x months I have done xyz and take on a great deal of responsibility. Would there be any possibility of you having another look at my pay in order to make it more of a fair recompense for my hard work and the value I consistently bring?"

    ETA don't just take my word for it though, in my line of work we all get paid according to national payscales so this situation would never actually occur!

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  • C
    Beginner July 2004
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    According to my boss! he says when he's not around, I am responsible for what he does etc!!

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  • C
    Beginner July 2004
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    Thanks, we are only a very small company, only 5 employees. I just feel a bit hurt that I have put so much effort and time and hard work into this job and someone walks in and goes straight on to £10 per hour!!

    Don't get me wrong, I am not ungrateful for any sort of pay rise but I do feel after all my time and effort to get where we are today that £10 per hour is not unreasonable. Maybe i'm wrong?

    I am always at the end of a phone or email, even when I am not in the office, I only work 3 days per week but may as well work 5 for the amount of times I get called or emailed at home! I never complain about this either, just get on with it.

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  • HatTrick
    Beginner September 2010
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    Would you be capable of covering his job? Does he have any qualifications and extra training that you don't? It;s hard when we don't know your roles.

    Is what you are earning now (or with the 5% payrise) the going rate for your job title?

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  • ForTheLoveOfMrsBrown
    Beginner January 2012
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    So you stand in for the boss of the company when he's not there? How often do you do this? How long have you been left in charge? Do you have to do any extra jobs when you stand in like this?

    You might have grounds for a discussion about pay on ^^^. Forget the comparisons to other members of staff.

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  • Kriek
    Beginner December 2012
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    Personally I would be looking for compensation for this rather than comparing your role to another staff member.

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  • raincloud
    Beginner August 2011
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    I don't this is unusual. It's happened to me twice that I know of. I have managed people with more experience with me, so they were on a higher pay level. No big deal really.

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