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Beginner September 2004

Joachim Phoenix

barongreenback, 12 February, 2009 at 14:19 Posted on Off Topic Posts 0 20

Is this a piss take or is he ill?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=718VzeDXBDs

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Latest activity by kjfc100, 12 February, 2009 at 18:11
  • Sparkley
    Beginner September 2007
    Sparkley ·
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    Don't you mean Joaquin Phoenix

    I can't see that clip ?

    Whatever has happened to him he looks awful, like a tramp.

    He used to be sooooooooooo beautiful ?

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  • S
    Beginner November 2014
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    I think he's going through a 'moment' right now. He's quit being an actor to become a rap star instead apparently.

    ETA If I was him, I'd be really peed off with the way Letterman & the audience were laughing at me and treating me like an idiot too.

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  • MrsD
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    My guess is piss take. David Letterman was laughing along with him far too much in my opinion.

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  • NickJ
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    You can view it here sparks - i m assuming its the letterman thing? its VERY uncomfortable tbh, i feel pretty sorry for him, and cant understand whyt he audicen is laughing. he s such an amazing actor and judging by his manner, it seems there is something very wrong

    http://www.holymoly.com/page/NewsDetail/0,,12643~1554808,00.html

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  • MrsD
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    To be fair, he wasn't really helping himself was he?

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  • barongreenback
    Beginner September 2004
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    I'm hoping it is. Letterman has a long tradition of having the guest in on the joke (like his recent Richard Simmons interview and similar to the Jimmy Kimmel/Matt Damon skit). Otherwise it's just plain cruel.

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  • S
    Beginner November 2014
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    Nope, very true.

    I think I've read somewhere that he hates being interviewed and doing the 'star' thing so maybe this is his normal, warm, loving self?

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  • Zo�
    Beginner July 2009
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    I only watched a snippet but it looked like he didnt want to be there at all and wasnt being cooperative with the questions being asked. He looked a little out of it as well.

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  • kewbride
    Beginner September 2007
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    I'm pretty sure he is ill actually, why on earth would his agent put him up for this?

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  • MrsD
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    Apparently (from what I've just managed to quickly google) his BIL Casey Affleck is making a documentary and is filming all his interviews and the subject of the documentary is Joaquin's leaving acting and becoming a hip hop star. A lot of people think its a spoof (think Spinal Tap) so opinions are a bit divided as to whether he was really stoned, acting stoned or just acting like a former actor wanting to be a hip hop star.

    Make of it what you will. Also, someone said that Joaquin whispered something to DL at the end of the interview so more talk of a joint venture and that DL was in on it.

    Like I said, its all speculation but he's probably duty bound to do the interview anyway as part of the pre-release contractual obligations for his film with Gwyneth.

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  • HeidiHole
    Beginner October 2003
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    There is a theory that this is all very 'method' and that he is playing a part he has created to distance himself from the 'heart throb' image.

    That wouldn't surprise me at all, tbh.

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  • Zebra
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    WSS

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  • NickJ
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    it would be nice if that were true. however, my guess is that he isnt well, i do hope i m wrong though. Some people will always look for a positive explanation to something that they dont understand and / or makes them feel uncomfortable.

    look at the kerry katona thing when she appeared on "this morning". numerous people said no no no, its her medication etc. turned out she was as pissed as a fart. people want to believe something that sits easier with them, and the thought that JP is playing a part sits easier (i d imagine) that if he had a mental health problem.

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  • HeidiHole
    Beginner October 2003
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    I didn't realise KK was drunk when she did that, wasn't that just media speculation.

    I have plenty of experience of mental health problems so am certainly not uncomfortable with it at all, am merely speculating on this thread, the same as everyone else is, about what I've read and heard.

    Time will tell, I guess.

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  • MrsD
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    I didn't know about KK being drunk either.

    Watching that clip doesn't make me feel uncomfortable really. He's either one or the other. If he's stoned/ill then he needs help and probably has enough opportunities/people around him to help him recover. If he's neither ill nor stoned and its really just a stunt or he's playing a part or whatever, then fair play to him. He's an actor and acting has made him very very wealthy so he must be quite good at it.

    I still think its an act, but I could be wrong and obviously I'm just speculating.

    As HH said, time will tell.

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  • GemBear
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    Gosh he looks horrendous. If it is an act then it's a damn good one.........although given that he's an actor I suppose it would be!

    Hmm - time will tell I guess.

    Gem

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  • NickJ
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    Yes, she admitted she had an alcohol problem a few weeks later when questioned, this after repeated denials about it.

    i m not having a go btw, just saying that people will often try to find a more positive explanation than a negative one, particularly when it may convern a subject which they dont feel comfortable about

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  • Wordsworth
    Beginner September 2005
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    There are rumours that it's all put on for the cameras, but there have been rumours about the state of his mental health for even longer (as well as speculation about drug use, possibly because of what happened to his brother) and so I find it all quite uncomfortable.

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  • MD
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    Very painful watching - if it was a spoof the audience didn't know so how could they laugh at him like that?

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  • Missus Jolly
    Beginner October 2004
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    There was an article in The Indy a week or so ago saying that no one could make out whether he was ill or whether this was part of some Borrat style hoax. I have to say that It's looking a lot like he's not too well.

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  • kjfc100
    Beginner August 2008
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    Actuallly, KK did admit to being an alcoholic a few weeks after the This Morning interview, but she was talking about it in reference to her stay in the Priory, four years ago. The two separate occurences were then linked by various media.

    She has still never admitted being drunk in the This Morning interview.

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