Kids photos on Facebook

Woody would thank you for all your kind comments but he's lying on his back, legs in the air and snoring. It's a dog's life.

Oo was the picture of Pans' baby - she looooves Anne Geddes ?

But do you disagree with children dressing up as an angel in a concert then?

Kids dressing up as angels in a school nativity generally dress up in tinsel and coat hanger wires, not real feathers ?

You should have gone to my kids concert then ?

J said she doesn't agree with them as angels as it's creepy. Just wondered if she found it creepy at a kids concert?

He looks so happy?

I'd think it distinctly odd if a child dressed up as an angel for a concert, it's far more usual to dress them as angels when they are portraying the Nativity.

If your child was an angel in a concert, you took a couple of photos of your child, stuck it on facebook (not my child btw as I don't have a facebook account and wouldn't show people but close friends and familly anyway) would you think that's creepy?

When I was the Golden Goose in the school play (not nativity), my mum made me an awesome outfit complete with padding on my chest, baseball cap covered with yellow cloth and a card 'beak', and best of all two card wings covered with individual foil feathers. It must have taken her frigging ages, but then I was more usually a sheep or 'chorus' so I think she was bursting with pride. Must get that scanned, twas an awesome costume.

That was probably her last really PMM to be fair, I've been a bit of a 'doesn't live up to potential' since then really ?

I find it creepy just as Janna does. It's not remotely like dressing a child as an angel for a nativity play.

I thought J ment a child dressing up as an angel in general?

My impression (or rather what Baron stated his impression was) was that it was a professional shoot, where they had put realistic wings on a child. Which I agree is a country mile from either impromptu photos of playing dressup in fairy wings at home, or proud parents taking shots of the traditional tin foil and wire hangers angel outfit from little Johnny's first nativity, and is frankly a little strange. Each to their own I suppose though.

Baron, in my head I am picturing massive, sweeping white wings that are nearly as big as the child, kind of like swan's wings - is that roughly what it was?

? Come along little Thomasina, mummy wants to get to the front of the mosh pit.

I completely agree, the feathers sound creepy and quite far removed from the fairy wings sold in the Early Learning Centre.

It's like the ? icon. To me on hitched (and definitely on BT), this icon represents a baby who has died. When someone uses it to describe their (very much alive) child, I wince. I tried to use it on OT quite some time ago, after me doing something good (can't remember what now, it can't have been that good ?) but had to delete it before I posted as it just didn't feel right.

That would be a good approximation, yes.

Ah, got it. Thanks. It is a Friday!

It has these connotations for me too - parents of angels are bereaved ones, in my head. Dressing up wings that look like dressing up wings are something different altogether. Photoshopping a picture to make it look like a child really does have wings grafted or growing is plain creepy.

Dogma. ?

I know this makes me a sick fcuker but I now really want a Bartleby outfit for Rhys. ?

https://www.coolest-homemade-costumes.com/coolest-bartleby-from-dogma-costume/?

Ah if only I had some talent ?

Damn it, I now really want to watch Dogma again but we deleted it. Might have to watch Clarks instead tonight ?

I really don't get the objection here. I've seen some beautiful (IMO) pics from hitchers in the HPAD pool who have used feathery wings on their toddlers and thought how stunning they looked.

I don't see how it's linked with death, but then I don't think of angels purely from a death perspective, tbh.

each to their own. there's lots of stuff, both baby related and just generally that's not to my taste but it doesn't mean other people shouldn't indulge (princess on board stickers etc etc)

I don't think I would find it weird, creepy or even give it a second thought.

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I'd never really heard anyone refer to a lost child as an angel until I started following BT so I don't really associate them with death either.

I don't think there's any Biblical basis for doing so; I've always understood that angels are not ghosts or the souls of the dead but separate creatures sent from God.

Zeb, yes, that's how I see them as a concept, IYSWIM. Or at least, that's probs how I was brought up to see them, I'm not quite sure I believe in angels myself (cue for an Abba song)

Prior to BT I suppose the only reference to children being little angels I'd come across was an ironic reference - like Little Angels with Tanya Byron.

I was brought up to believe that when God needs another angel, he chooses a very special baby and they become his angel so have always associated the death of babies with angels but I think part of that is explaining the death of a baby to a young child in a way they understand. This is obviously when the faith is there in the first place, no just randomly to a non-religious child. My mum still takes comfort from this; when I told her about the Why17? campaign, she told me believing my sister is an angel makes it bearable to live with the pain.

Just to clarify, when I said I thought the photo sounded creepy, I meant the image of massive realistic feathers on a young child, not fairy wings or anything which could be used for playing. The HPAD shots I have seen don't match the description from BGB as they were cute dress up type wings, it doesn't sound like the photo was showing the child as a dress up fairy or a nativity angel, which I think the HPAD shots were. I could have BGB's photo completely wrong though.

Ah, thanks Magic, that makes more sense! it's a bit tricky to guess what ol' BGB objects to without the photo in question to see ?

Sorry, hadn't realised I'd left this thread in 'limbo' and someone asked for clarification....

No, nativity plays featuring angels do not creep me out, because they're playing a character. To dress your child as a (realistic looking) angel is to me, mimicking them, themselves being an angel (and therefore dead), rather than taking on the role of a character (in your example the Angel Gabriel, I assume?)

Perhaps it's an indictment of how many years I've spent on BT but I associate children being angels, as them being dead I'm afraid.

I think children get referred to as angels, and likeise devils, quite a lot, and it is far removed from any concept of death.

What I find really odd is how strong people's reactions are to this. Especially as only baron has actually seen it. It's a kid, in wings. So what?

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Some friends of ours had a set of professional photos taken of their toddler. I was a bit taken aback that they were of here stark naked with a set of feather wings on. It did look very, very odd and the idea of having that blown up to vast size on public display creeped me out tbh. I'm not sure how much of that was to do with the very much full frontal nakedness though. Maybe I'm too pragmatic, but if I was given a choice of one garment for a toddler sitting on a sheepskin rug, it wouldn't be wings ?

On the subject of weirdly inappropriate pictures of children, our old paediatrician used to have a huge close-up photo in his waiting room of a toddler girl and boy on the loo , crotch shot only (ie just a willy and a vagina, blown up to about 2m square). It wasn't a medical picture in any way- more like the quite twee photos you get of babies' bums, except this was full frontal, genitals only. Odd.

On the subject of weirdly inappropriate pictures of children, our old paediatrician used to have a huge close-up photo in his waiting room of a toddler girl and boy on the loo , crotch shot only (ie just a willy and a vagina, blown up to about 2m square). It wasn't a medical picture in any way- more like the quite twee photos you get of babies' bums, except this was full frontal, genitals only. Odd.