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poochanna, 13 August, 2008 at 10:45 Posted on Off Topic Posts 0 27

I am finding that I get increasingly annoyed at people never saying "please" or "thank you". To be asking someone to do something, without offering a "please" is giving them an order, surely? I'd say in my day to day life it's maybe one person in 5 who actually says please and thank you. It seems to go hand in hand with "blame culture" where people can't say "could you please do me a favour as I forgot" but instead opt for "I need this error corrected immediately". It's actually making me really annoyed and I so want to email back and ask if their mother taught them any manners ?

Am I just turning into an old grump or is it just not common anymore to have manners?

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Latest activity by Hyacinth, 13 August, 2008 at 20:11
  • Lumpy Golightly
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    I know. I try very hard with the young people I work with to instill in them the please and thank you hbit - it's something a lot of them don't do and they're now the second or third generation of people who demand. It's horrible.

    On the other side of the coin, I work with a senior manager who will say things like 'Please can you make sure the report is with me by 9am please.' That drives me a bit mad too ?

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  • Katchoo
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    I agree. I can't believe how bad the general manners of the population have become.

    I particularly get annoyed by this in shops. Don't you find you often get served by staff who don't look you in the eye, barely speak except to bark 'pin number' (!) and don't say thank you.

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    christ, how ironic is this? ?

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  • Emsy Truff
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    It annoys me too, especially in customer facing people who are paid to be polite to me.

    At work I just correct my colleagues like I'm their Mom. So if a manager at work says, 'Can you get me this' I will sayt 'please?' and usually they will look all embarrassed and say please then remember next time. My peer group is mainly old men (ha, ha, they are in their 40s / 50s) and I am 29 but still tell them off for forgetting to use basic common courtesy. There is no excuse and I don't care if it annoys them (as I'm sure it must), they should remember their manners.

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  • SophieM
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    I had an appointment with someone last week. She didn't turn up. I left two voice messages for her and eventually yesterday got an email from her assistant saying she's had a problem with hger diary and could we reschdule. Although the assistant did apologise, I still thought this was pretty rooood.

    Nick - what do you mean?

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  • emma numbers
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    Do you shop at my local Tesco? Actually they just bark 'Pin' at you so you can't do.

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    https://hitched.co.uk/Chat/forums/t/45618.aspx

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    I hope that I have taught my son good manners. I felt quite chuffed on Monday as we went to the dentist, he went in to see the dentist by himself (he is 10). When he came out the dentist said how good he was, and also said "he has lovely manners". I said thank you, and she said, "really, he has, you would be surprised how few times I say that to parents".

    I do get a bit irritated in shops though. I have taught him from a young age to open the door for others and to let them go before himself, and the amount of adults who completely ignore him holding the door for them, is...well, it is a lot.! - A quick "thank you" would do no harm.

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    Phew, it's not just me (lol)

    I think I may go on a manners mission, make it my life's work to get people to be polite. It really shocks me actually and in people who would hold themselves in high regard.

    I can forgive people not saying please if they follow it up with a thank you when you have completed the task but then I get really annoyed when they don't ?

    Oooh yes and people not turning up, that's a good one, I'll add "not aplogising" to my list as well ?

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  • SophieM
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    ? at "snotty bitch".

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    I know freecycle is hardly a place to judge, but I offered something recently and had to give it to the only taker - a person whose reply read "ave you still got" - no please, no thankyou, no punctuation, no H for goodness' sake!

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    I don't know how you can make other people be more polite though. In shops I do make it my mission to make the person at the check out look me in the eye and say something - even if I have to stand there saying thank you over and over again. ? Same as saying 'thank you' loudly when you hold open a door for someone and they stroll through without comment.

    Is it a cultural thing perhaps? We were taught general manners and table manners at school. Is this not the done thing any more?

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    You should have replied 'no I 'aven't' ?

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    Oh God, don't get me started on the hell which is Freecycle. the lack of manners from its users in general has to be seen to be believed. I once gave away three patio heaters, and the responses were legendary. They ranged from "if you throw in the gas canisters I'll take them. can you deliver?" to "pls snd yr mbile, will *** 2nite" ?

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    One of the reasons I avoid freecycle I know it would annoy me ?

    I find often when you do people a favour they don't say thanks. Things that I would maybe buy a bottle of wine for, some people don't even text a thanks.

    I know my Mom was always big on manners and my school was pretty strict as well. My Mom will still pick me up if she thinks I've not said thank you. It's actually quite embarrassing at 32 ? I don't think it's a youngster thing though, a lot is adults and people who would pride themselves on their etiquette.

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    I was brought up to say please and thank you and continue to this day. I always ask with a please and once a task is done I respond with a thank you. Its simple, its only two words but Im amazed by how many people dont say them. I hold doors open for people behind me and rarely get a thanks for it, I always say thanks to someone thats held a door open for me. One chap thanked me for saying thanks when he held a door open for me in a shop in town recently, he was genuinely suprised Id thanked him!

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    I don't watch many adverts these days, due to the wonder of Sky+, but I've seen a Subway one a few times recently. The server asks the customer if he wants chillis on his order ... he says no ... I shout "THANK YOU" at the TV.

    I must get out more.

    M.

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    I was brought up the same way.

    Mind you, I used to say thank you to cashpoints when they gave me money, but I have stopped that now!

    I do say thank you when I'm driving and people let me out at junctions etc- I know they can't hear me saying it, but it's just habit!

    I also say "thank you" on behalf of the cat when I put food down for him! (because he can't talk - obviously!)

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    I wave in a 'thankyou' way to people that are kind enough to let me out in traffic. I get enraged if I let someone out and they dont acknowledge it.

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    <everyone's gran> Manners don't cost anything <everyone's gran>

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    I have to say, some kids and young adults these days have better manners then the elderly?

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    I do the wave thing as well, and also sometimes do it twice if I think they may not have seen it the first time - I also say " thank you" out loud as well though.

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    I do this, too.

    What really pees me off is other people on London Underground. Which part of 'Please allow passangers off the train first before boarding' do they not understand? Someone practically winded me the other day as I tried to get off (I actually cried out in pain as he thumped into me, in his haste to get on). No apology, nothing. He got a seat, though. ?

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    Oh Zooneycat now that is my bugbear too. I'm quite small and have lost count of the amount of times I've been sent flying by a briefcase or a rucksack in someone's haste to get on the train.

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    I actually have kind of made it my misson to retsore manners. My Mum calls it "Red Hyacinth" Recently it has included throwing someone off the number 10 bus and getting into a (most bad mannered) war of words with a little oik who made a pervy comment about my sisters breasts. (sisters exact words were <astonished> Hyyacinth have you developed touettes?") whoopsy. Hopefully he'll think twice about making a disgusting comment about another woman though.

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    Sounds like you may have lost the moral high ground there ?

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    does she have nice breasts though?

    and also, hyacinth, i replied to your thread about your phone contract recently and gave some options. to reply would really have been good manners.

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    Well, she does actually. Nick, I didn't see your reply, I'm actually really surprised that you would assume I am bad mannered rather than that I hadn't seen it. Its certainly not something I make a habit of so I don't understand why you would have reason to assume I'm ignoring you just to be rude?

    Actually, that is really unfair. Its the nature of a forum that you can't be here all the time. If a thread has fallen to the third page I think its fair enough to assume its over.

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