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SillyWrong
Beginner October 2014

Need your advice re OH's ER ring ***UPDATE 9/6 - FLASHES!***

SillyWrong, 14 May, 2014 at 10:28 Posted on Planning 0 25

Back-story on her engagement ring:

Last year I bought my OH a ring for her 30th birthday. I had bought it a few months before her birthday and had it hidden at home. Then she proposed. That night when we got home we were giddy and to be honest a little bit p*ssed and so between sobs I produced her ring from its hiding spot for her to wear until we could go shopping to get her a ‘proper’ one.

She fell in love with that ring and said it was special because I’d given it to her the night we got engaged – and she wouldn’t let me get her another (I did however get her another birthday present!) I really wanted her to have a more ‘traditional’ engagement ring, and while I loved her birthday ring, I didn’t love it as an engagement ring. Still, she insisted.

This is it … it’s diamonds and the darker stones are colour treated diamonds. They are more blue than they look in the picture.


Fast forward to now and we’re getting wedding rings made – hers obviously has to be shaped to fit her ER so they’ve been sent off to the jeweller to be scanned. We’ve had an email back saying that one of the blue stones is missing from her ring. We hadn’t realised previously. The stones are so tiny I don’t suspect any wrong doing at all from the jewellers point of view – he said it’s common with rings like this as the settings are so tiny, and he said he’d check the rest of the settings for us.

Now … I’m back to thinking that I want to get her a new ring. But I need to decide fast – as if she’s getting a new ring, she’ll not need the shaped wedding ring. I know that if I bring it up with her she’ll say no (probably more because of the financial aspect as we're obviously not flush at the moment with wedding planning, but I could work something out) … but I don’t want her to be wearing a ring for the rest of her life that has stones falling out of it! Really, it’s only a dress ring, not a forever ring?

What would you do!?

(Obviously I plan to go back to complain where I bought the ring – Ernest Jones – but that’s a different issue.)

********* EDIT 30/05/14 *********

She wanted to keep the ring because she loves it, so we went ahead with the wedding ring designs. They sent us wax models and we were literally about to place the order when I took her ring in to a jewellers to get the size confirmed (we weren't convinced the wedding ring people had sized it properly) and noticed another stone has fallen out. The stones are so tiny, and because it's the darker stones it's not immediately noticeable.

So we had a chat last night, and no she doesn't want to replace the ring, but really, if the stones are falling out, she needs to. She's only had it 7 months and I'd like her ER to still be on her finger in 50 years time - that one probably won't last til our wedding day. I'm so annoyed - that ring wasn't cheap!

So ... I need your advice. Does anyone know of a good place to buy ER's where you get plenty of bang for your buck? She likes the solitaire style. I'm not prepared to chance buying online from abroad, but I'd like my money to stretch as far as I can. I'm just going to buy one and surprise her with it ...

Your help, as always, is appreciated Smiley smile

********* EDIT 09/06/14 *********

went back to the store, the manager was super nice, and after much deliberation over what to do (2 hours in the store!) we ended up with a new ER and 2 wedding rings. He was going to do an exchange on the ER but then after he offered us such heavy discounts on the ER and the WR's we decided to keep the original ER and he's sent it off for a FREE repair and resize (so OH can wear it on the right hand) for us!

Here's OH's new ER (which, amazingly was the right size so she got to take it away there and then!)


And here's our WR (we decided to go with matching)


25 replies

Latest activity by alyj66, 9 June, 2014 at 19:10
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    Beginner December 2014
    WinterBride14 ·
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    I think its a very pretty ring & I can understand why OH doesnt want to change it. However, I can also understand your reticence about it. The only thing I can suggest you do is tell your OH exactly your reasons for wanting to get another ring....it doesnt have to mean that she can't wear this one....maybe she could change to wearing this on her right hand. But, as you say, you need to make a swift decision if you have to organise your wedding rings around it soon.

    Good luck x

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    Bruce Neville Photography ·
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    I would be reluctant to discard the ring you already gave her because it now has sentimental value to her, I don't know the answer but if it was me and from past experience I would get the ring repaired and strengthened so they don't fall out in the future but then that's me.

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  • ForTheLoveOfMrsBrown
    Beginner January 2012
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    Let her wear the ring she wants to wear!

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  • ClaireD*
    Beginner May 2014
    ClaireD* ·
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    That's a tough one.

    Maybe there is a compromise where you use Alba Rose to design you a 'new' engagement ring that has lots of similarities to the original one, but is more like a 'proper' engagement ring you have in mind? They can do a matching wedding ring at the same time.

    This comes to mind because I also had a 'temporary' engagement ring that I got attached to. Like yours above, it didn't have one central stone. We got it replicated by Alba Rose, with the same design of metal work but with a solitaire diamond in it. It meant I got a replacement ring, but also in my mind it was the same original ring, if you see what I mean?

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  • yorkshirekiwi
    Beginner August 2014
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    I think it's ultimately her choice. Even though you didn't purchase the ring with an engagement in mind, that is what it's become to her. I get really sentimental about stuff so if I were in her place I'd be resistant to change. Why not raise the subject again, let her know that this incident has made you concerned about the quality of the ring you gave her and that you always wanted her to have a 'proper' engagement ring, then be prepared to abide by her decision. I personally wouldn't just buy a ring without speaking to her first. I would be quite upset if my OH tried to change my ER, even if his intentions were only the best, my ring means so much to me. I from what you wrote it sounds like your OH may feel the same.

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    This^^^^^^^^^ I learned my lesson early? I did the same thing and got my wife a new ring and it back fired on me, I was made to take it back, so now I'm very careful what I do???

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  • SillyWrong
    Beginner October 2014
    SillyWrong ·
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    Of course! It's not about my preference about what it looks like. Ultimately, I want her to wear a ring she loves. However, I'm concerned about getting a wedding ring designed to fit around a ring which is proving to be a bit shoddy!

    Perhaps we'll just carry on as we are and if her ER ring gets any worse maybe we'll get another ER made to replicate that one. Just wanted to make sure we're not going to regret going ahead with the shaped WR order.

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  • SillyWrong
    Beginner October 2014
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    *bump for edit*

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  • cymruangel
    Beginner December 2014
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    For the updated ER question:

    Have you thought about getting the company that's making your wedding rings to make an ER too? They'll already have her ring size so will just need an idea of design from you?

    Failing that, I've heard good things about Purely Diamonds (.co.uk) although only thrid hand, haven't actually seen one of their rings in real life.

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  • pammy67
    Beginner April 2015
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    Depends how proud you can afford/want to be. Do you mind second hand for example. If not then Ebay - you can get some real bargains! Scrutinise the sellers carefully and ensure it's a certificated diamond and you'll be fine.

    You could look for a local jewellerwho does second hand jewellery, or even the local jewellers who can make rings up for you. Some offer excellent value.

    Hope you have gone back to Ernest Jones though to complain and get a replacement.

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  • InkedDoll
    VIP January 2015
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    Have you considered vintage? My ER is vintage and was very cheap. Worth looking on ebay and etsy or in second hand stores.

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    Beginner May 2015
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    Maybe don't get a new engagement ring, but spend a little more on a really exquisite wedding ring? She could wear the original ring on her other hand and in a few years you could potentially get another ER or eternity ring.

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  • SillyWrong
    Beginner October 2014
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    Thanks all ... yes, I did think about getting an amazing wedding ring. i've spoken to the place we got the ER from from now and they've said that as it's within 12 months they'll take the ring back and fix or exchange it for us which is amazing news, gives a bit more space in the budget, though limits us now to choosing a new ring from the same shop.

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  • smokesignal
    Beginner August 2015
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    I know you said you don't want to buy online from abroad, but my ER is from 21 Diamonds, which I think makes the rings in Germany? Anyway, I haven't looked at the site or prices or anything, but I know they must be relatively inexpensive as my OH is a student :L I don't know if they'd have the sort of thing you're looking for, but I love my ring and if you're concerned about dodgy online sellers, I can vouch for the quality Smiley smile

    Otherwise, like others have said, vintage may be a good way to go?

    HTH, Libby
    xoxo

    *ETA: didn't see that you'd updated before I posted this! That's great about the shop taking it back, hopefully you can push for a little discount? It is an inconvenience to you, after all Smiley smile

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  • pammy67
    Beginner April 2015
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    Well it's not a bad outcome, but I'd be pushing them for a heavy discount too due to the inconvenience and loss of occasion. We got 20% off our wedding rings from EJ without any hassle. Pave type settings can be dodgy, at least now you can go for a full claw setting that should be more robust. Enjoy shopping Smiley smile

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  • Alisha.B
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    Why dont you get a similar design made?

    her are some ideas of rings that look like they have bigger stone settings:

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  • SillyWrong
    Beginner October 2014
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    Oh I really like that one 5th from the bottom ... thing is, she only wanted to keep the ring because of the significance of when i gave it to her, i think her ideal ER would be a solitaire.

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  • cinnamon009
    Beginner December 2014
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    You could always get them to just fix the original ER and still choose another one given the same might happen again? I'm having my original ER reset as the setting is only three pronged and is not suitable for the size of the diamond. I have bought a tanzanite stone (purple) which is my birthstone to have put in the existing setting so I will keep it as a ring as I'm attached to it. It just won't be my ER anymore.

    In terms of getting more bang for your buck - I was on the receiving end of the ring so didn't do much research but my OH bought the diamond separately directly from a diamond merchants and then chose a setting at a jewellers to have it fitted. You definitely get more value that way as you are cutting out the middleman who will add onto the diamond price. So if you exchange - they may let you chose the setting there and use the diamond you supply?

    Also, do some research on diamonds if you are after a solitaire and decide what you want to spend your money on - size or quality. Some people only look at carats (the shops often only display this) but that is only one grade of the diamond. You can have a huge 2 carat diamond which is a lower clarity rating and therefore cheaper than a 1 carat diamond which has better clarity. Some people concentrate on carat size as they like a big rock. I'm not a big ring person so was very happy that OH chose a smaller carat (1 carat) but very high clarity diamond (he had to give me the certificate for my home insurance). People comment on how sparkly it is all the time.

    Having said all the above - I would be hesitant doing this without her consent - she has said she doesn't want another one and it looks like you are ignoring her wishes if you just buy her one anyway. It's like her opinion doesn't count for anything?

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  • SillyWrong
    Beginner October 2014
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    Thanks Cinnamon ... no, she's now agreed that she needs another ring - she is excited to have a new ring (of course!!) but sad that the first one didn't work out. what i meant about surprising her was that i just won't mention it again now and will surprise her at a special time with a new ring, since she did the original proposing! Equality n all that! Smiley smile

    Thanks for your advice, i'll look in to diamond merchants Smiley smile

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  • Dilkara
    Beginner April 2015
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    I think you highlighted the real problem. It was designed to be a dress ring and probably won't stand up to everyday wear regardless. Maybe you could use this ring as an eternity ring to wear now and then, rebox it and present it or one similar with a poem and get a claw set er?

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  • Alisha.B
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    This could be a cool idea for a set that has a nod to the original ring but is a solitaire that can be worn on its own

    if she isnt planning on wearing the original you could attempt to resuse some stones as well like some people do with family heirlooms

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  • SillyWrong
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    *bump* for update

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  • pammy67
    Beginner April 2015
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    Aaaw wonderful news, so glad you got it all sorted with such a great outcome. xx Love the new rings Smiley smile We found EJ to be very helpful and reasonable once you get them into discount mode lol. We're very happy with our rings, and they've said they'll polish my ER for me before the day, and gave us a lovely double ring box for the day too Smiley smile xx

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  • Sambarine
    Beginner May 2015
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    So glad you managed to get it all sorted - I think the manager of the store deserves a corporate feedback form to say how brilliant he was! really good that you're both happy in the end, and that solitaire is beautiful.

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  • alyj66
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    Glad it's all sorted out and relatively quickly too. The ring is so beautiful.

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