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Beginner April 2014

Photographer's Terms and Conditions?!!?

The Holliwoods, 20 February, 2013 at 16:51 Posted on Planning 0 24

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone can answer a couple of questions about photographers?? We have seen one that we really liked and thought we were going to go for but then got their terms and conditions and some of them seemed a bit much. For example, must provide a meal. Is this normal? If we are already paying them £1800 it seems a bit much to include them in the meals, and shouldn't they be taking photos?? I do not get provided with a meal when I go to work! Also, do you think £1800 including 10 hours, 200 photos on CD and an album is average?? Help!

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Latest activity by Wedding Photography By Bill Haddon, 21 February, 2013 at 14:04
  • Pink Han-bag
    Beginner March 2013
    Pink Han-bag ·
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    Your photographer is probably working 8 hours minimum, would you want them to work all that time without eating? I think the problem is there isn't always places to get food whilst working, I know our venue won't be serving any other food on the day other than what we've requested so he wouldn't just be able to order a meal. Ours didn't ask for it but we've offered.

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  • BarcaGirl25
    Beginner April 2014
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    HI

    im not sure on the cost, seems high to me but then that's just based on my budget not me actually knowing anything!

    in terms of the meal, we are going to but they will be with us all day and they need to eat! It's not like we are putting them at a table or anything but at the venue the staff there eat so my tog will too. It's not like you want photos of you eating is it? It's either provide a meal or they have to disappear for an hour to go get something is how I figure it.

    Im not sure I'd like it mandated to me but I am doing it anyway so ...!

    its really up to you tho as you haven't signed yet from what I gather?

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  • A
    Beginner September 2015
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    Hey,

    This is a common problem these days photographers are very demanding. My wedding is also coming in next 1 year and i have planned to book photographers from http://www.nautilusweddings.com/, they have very competitive photographer pricing. On my friend they done a shoot, and charged very less. I hope it may help you.

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  • DaffodilWaves
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    Providing a meal does seem to be normal although not many insist on it from what I can gather. They would usually have a break when you and your guests start eating. They don't make very attractive shots!

    The price seems about average with an album too (depending on the make of album).

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  • BarcaGirl25
    Beginner April 2014
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    Oh! Misread, yeah with an album that price looks about what I've been quoted :-)

    only you can know if you're happy tho.

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  • *gnashers*
    Beginner October 2013
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    Completely normal for them to ask for a meal, it's in our contract too. Most venues will have a supplier menu, which is cheaper than the menu you'll be having. As for them taking pictures all day, do you really want pics of people eating?!

    We're paying £1650 for images on disc, an album would be an extra few hundred I think. You can get cheaper togs, but then you can get those that are more expensive too. It depends on your budget, how important you think photography is, and how much you love your togs style.

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  • DaffodilWaves
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    BG I only spotted it second time reading it haha

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  • Chris Giles Photography
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    Regarding food it's quite common for a contract to contain something about food. They won't be taking any pictures during the wedding breakfast when there's a fork in your mouth. You really don't want that. Really.

    £1800 is just a price and if someone takes all our extras it can come to that too (without an album). What you need to ask yourself is if their work is worth it and if so, can you afford it, if so then it's a reasonable price.

    There are togs from 500-5000. Who they are, what they do, their reputation and what they deliver is the difference between them.

    You should feed your togs out of courtesy. Running around in soaring temperatures with 10 kilos strapped to you for 9 hours whilst wearing a smile and staying focused, usually far away from so much as a petrol station takes a lot from anyone. Most venues do suppliers meals / discounted rates. In all honesty no supplier is being cheeky or greedy, it's commonplace. Frankly, I've been fed at venues sometimes and all I got was a chicken breast and 2 potatoes. I still had to feed myself!

    With any suppliers, even if you've paid them to do something, looking after them, being human to them, you'll find they'll look after you many times over.

    This is a personal service.

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  • Going2theChapel
    Beginner March 2013
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    I just automatically assumed i would be feeding all my suppliers who are there for the day, dinner!

    ? DW, hope you like duck! quack quack

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  • *Funky*
    Beginner January 2001
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    Ours is in our contract, price seems reasonable but depends if you love the photos as that is the most important thing.

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  • KarenJane
    Beginner June 2013
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    THIS - We're feeding the band and the phographer - our caterers do a huge lasagne and chips and salad for them ?

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  • Rhys Parker
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    Yes completely normal. As others have said, the photographer will have a break, eat, change batteries & memory cards etc. when you and your guests are eating.

    At the end of the day your probably going to get better pictures if the photographer is fed and watered. Also regarding price, yes that seems reasonable, though I assume you were booking them because you LOVE their work rather than they just aiming for 'average'. Everyone is different, but imo booking a photographer shouldn't be about getting 3 quotes and picking the middle one.

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  • DaffodilWaves
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    G2tC I LOVE duck!!!

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  • mariannechuaphotography
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    Hmm not everyone requires a meal, but it's also not really out of order for them to request it. I can see why you thought it though at their price, £1800 is within a "normal" range, but it is the higher end. If I was charging that much I don't think I'd put a meal requirement into my contract.

    What I'd be interested in is are the photos on the CD the same as the album or different? I don't know what the norm is for album services so apologies if this sounds stupid, but if they were the same, does that essentially mean you get 200 photos from your day total?

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  • Going2theChapel
    Beginner March 2013
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    Goodie! consider yourself sorted ?

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  • kharv
    Beginner March 2012
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    Yep, normal to feed suppliers if they're there all day. They don't need to sit with your guests - normally they'll grab a bite to eat in the bar area or somewhere while all your guests are eating. You can't expect them to work for ten hours without a break - would you?

    Price seems fine for disc and album package but how many images do you get? Are they full res? I would expect more than 200.

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  • Chris Giles Photography
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    Building in what Kharv said, check to see what these come as.

    I know a lot of togs supply a mixture of colour and black and white in their image delivery, but not a copy of each.

    For me, I can't see the logic of doing that and if they do that with 200 images you might feel a little short changed. Especially if you see this great image, you ask for it in colour and they bill you £20. Just a thought.

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    Beginner December 2012
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    That's similar to what we paid for a disc and album but we got over 400 pictures on the disc. They also supplied two copies of everyone, one in high res and the other in a lower res that they said was suitable for uploading to the internet for most needs but much quicker as smaller files.

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  • *button*
    Beginner August 2012
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    I wouldn't have dreamt of not feeding our togs. They didn't mention anything but I gave them a choice of having the same meal as us or ordering what they wanted from the hotel bar. They just got themselves some sandwiches from the bar menu as this suited them best. We also had to provide food and soft drinks to the band - this was in their terms and conditions.

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  • barry@bwvideofilms.co.uk
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    The meal is a tricky subject because if we stipulate it it sounds a bit greedy, so I just say that I work better on a full tummy and hope they get the message! I don't expect the same expensive 3 courses but if you have a word with the caterers before the day they will usually provide something hot like a cottage pie or more usually a main course.

    The problem is that at most venues you can't even buy yourself a bar meal. Imagine, you've worked your socks off for hours, maybe no food since breakfast, then the delicious smell of hot food wafts out and you have nothing to eat (unless you are one of the hardy types who is happy to eat their own soggy sandwiches in the car). You know you are booked for several more hours until half way through the evening, but you are exhausted and need an energy boost. If you get nothing to eat how would you then feel about the rest of the day? We make sure anyone working for us, builders etc are well looked after and I'm sure they are better disposed and do a better job because of that.

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  • Chris Giles Photography
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    In my contract say I never expect to be fed, but would like to be told if a meal is provided.

    Then I had a call from a groom who hadn't read the contract who asked me is I'd like to be fed. To which I replied, I don't expect anything but if something is going that's great.

    To which he replied, 'ok great I'll let you sort yourself out then'.

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  • mariannechuaphotography
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    Ouch Chris! The other thing is, at my workplace I can be ready and prepared, I know there's a microwave, I know where the staff kitchen is etc. However being a wedding supplier means you're nearly always at unfamiliar venues, even if I could pay the kitchen myself for a sandwich or something my experience of being an events waitress tells me I'd be met with an icy stare. Kitchens need to be prepared even if it's one supplier meal and not all venues have a tescos nearby.

    I echo the sentiments of Chris and Kharv re: number of images, definitely worth checking what you're getting there.

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  • Rhys Parker
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    I think the logic for allot of togs is to only let the clients see their work in the best light (no pun intended). For example if you have a scene from a mixture of light sources that are different colours, it's pretty much always going to look much better in B&W.

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  • Chris Giles Photography
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    Agreed Rhys, how many times have we seen a church shot in Sepia / B+W and thought 'someone didn't like the white balance....'

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  • Wedding Photography By Bill Haddon
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    On the food issue

    I never ask for food, I have my own supplies and routines for what and when I eat anything, but most of the time I will not have anything food wise.I just don't need it 7/8/12 hours I promise I will not die of starvation.I am 91/2 stone and keep fit and do not smoke, I do not need a rest. I do have plenty of water.and I have times and amounts that I drink to time loo breaks for when I know I am not going to miss any thing --- yes you read that bit right - its true. I am a photo taking machine.
    I will eat properly when I get back - we are quite used to eating later and have never had set times for food.
    Whilst we are on the subject I will also not drink (alcohol) or eat garlic the night before - we call it a "non garlic night"
    I am beginning to think I am missing a trick here, as the man and wife "team" demand food and drinks - a supplier meal at £25 a head £10 drinks each I should be charging £70 extra because I do not demand food.
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