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Beginner August 2007

Q about tube strike/union power

alison76, 9 June, 2009 at 12:57 Posted on Off Topic Posts 0 14

Ok, we're due to have a 48 hour tube strike starting tonight.

I've been reading some of the comments on Sky News (I know, not great) but there were several LUL workers who'd commented to say that they hadn't voted for the strike and actually most people are happy with the deal.

How does a strike get called - is it just a case of more "yes" than "no" votes? It just angers me that the union may not have a full mandate for the strike. And especially to be striking over demands for a 5% payrise in the current climate.

And also, there is now the very real possibility of the World Cup qualifier at Wembley having to be played behind closed doors because of safety fears. Who will reimburse the travel costs of fans flying/getting train to London for the match?

It's an absolute joke.

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Latest activity by Katchoo, 9 June, 2009 at 13:44
  • HeidiHole
    Beginner October 2003
    HeidiHole ·
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    What is the strike over this time? If you tell me pay, I may have a bloody good old rant.

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    Beginner May 2005
    Pint&APie ·
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    Is that true ? The report I read said 1.5% this year, and 0.5% above inflation for the next three*.

    Either way, their blackmail and financial grasping is disgusting, given the state of the economy and their already bloated pay packets.

    By comparison, we've had three years in a row on sub-inflationary rises.

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  • A
    Beginner August 2007
    alison76 ·
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    You're gonna love this. They want a 5% pay rise this year plus a reduction in working hours but no loss of pay or benefits. They also want a guarantee of no redundancies.

    They've been offered:

    On Friday, 5 June, LU made an improved pay offer to all trade unions of either a four-year or two-year pay deal The four-year offer would see a pay increase of 1.5 per cent this year, with RPI +0.5 per cent in future years The two-year offer would see a pay increase of one per cent this year and RPI +0.5 per cent next year
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    Beginner August 2007
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    Yep - they were demanding 5% payrise and were offered 1.5%

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  • HeidiHole
    Beginner October 2003
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    Raaaaaaaaaaaaah, the greedy, selfish, utterly unreasonable fuckers! <I know this is not all tube drivers, calm yourselves).

    How much are they on now? 28/30k? That's way way more than the national average, I get that it can be unsociable hours and that the job's a responsible one, but wanting more than they already get?

    This makes me so mad, the unions have people by the balls, how dare they cause this much disruption and upset (I've got a good friend worrying about getting to an interview tomorrow) for more money when they earn plenty already?

    Actually, in this climate, I think it's pretty disgusting behaviour. Urgh.

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  • Mrs Winkle
    Beginner May 2007
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    B*stards. We have had no pay rise this year, and are facing redundancy. And I now have to spend stressful hours trying to get to an interview in central London on steamy, wet, smelly buses. Hardly ideal. I am very angry.

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  • MrsD
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    Just to add that the FA have confirmed the game will go ahead as planned (8.15 ko) and that it won't be played behind closed doors, so if the strike does go ahead, the fans will just have to get there any way they can.

    I think 5% and a reduction of the working week is just plain and simple taking the p*ss. They obviously have known about this match for a long time and have planned their action accordingly - underhand and just very very wrong. Whilst I'm all for fair pay for a fair day's work these demands just seem extremely greedy - plain and simple.

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  • Clare _ M
    Beginner July 2007
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    From what I've read it's a yes/no vote but only 30% of members have actually voted. I'm not sure if that's 30% voted yes or 30% in total that have voted. I think it's the latter.

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    Beginner August 2007
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    HH - a tube driver is on over £40K and gets free travel.

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    Beginner May 2005
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    There are no precise figures, but from what I've seen, the majority are pulling in over £35,000

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  • Clare _ M
    Beginner July 2007
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    And for their family, so Mr M says.

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  • HeidiHole
    Beginner October 2003
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    That much?! Fark me, well they can just kiss my fat Irish arse.

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  • Mrs Winkle
    Beginner May 2007
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    Fingers crossed.

    https://inthenews.co.uk/money/news/transport/tube-strike-latest-rmt-agrees-new-talks-1302591.htm

    It shouldn't be allowed. The unions shouldn't have this much power, other private sector businesses would be on their knees if this sort of thing happened.

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  • Mr JK
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    According to the Evening Standard, the dispute is also partly about two sacked members of staff.

    If this news story is accurate (though given the Standard's strongly right-wing views I don't exactly regard it as an impartial witness), they were sacked for serious disciplinary offences, one of which could have put passengers in jeopardy.

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  • Katchoo
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    I woke up to Bob Crow being interviewed on BBC London this morning, what a smug sanctimonius git he is. He seemed to be revelling in the spotlight, as opposed to serious about getting this sorted out.

    It's been hell on the Victoria Line with one day strikes over these 2 sacked workers, who thoroughly deserved to be sacked in my view. Grrrr.

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