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(Claire)
Beginner July 2011

Ray

(Claire), 30 April, 2013 at 09:05 Posted on Off Topic Posts 0 41

Was attacked in our local park last night. It was one of the worst moments of my life, sorry you think I’m being dramatic but I honestly thought Ray was going to be severely injured if not killed. We take him to the park every night and because he’s well behaved we let him off the lead, and we never have any problems, I spotted a dog I think it was a long haired Jack Russel but I can’t be sure, anyway he sauntered over to Ray, he sniffed at Ray’s backside and the next thing I knew he was hanging off Rays neck making these sounds that will haunt me for a long time, Steve tried to get the dog off Ray but he wouldn’t let go, by that time the owners dog had ran over and was trying to get the dog to let go but he was biting harder, foaming at the mouth, making these horrendous noises and I just panicked I was screaming, crying I felt helpless between Steve and this bloke they couldn’t get the dog to stop biting Ray, after what seemed like 10 minutes the owner who’s hand was ripped to shreds managed to prize this dogs mouth open and he let go, Ray was shaking, I scooped him up in my arms quickly checked him over, miraculously he didn’t seem marked, Steve was having a row with this bloke and in the end I just insisted that we leave and get Ray home so we could check him properly, the owner was very apologetic and told us that his dog had never behaved that way before and he couldn’t understand it. As we walked towards the car 2 dog walkers approached us asking if we were ok and they told us that they wanted to intervene but didn’t want to risk getting their own dogs caught up in it all which was totally understandable but they did say that they’ve seen that dog before and he’s very aggressive and they don’t understand why he a) isn’t muzzled and b) not on a lead. I was furious that I didn’t take this man’s details but I’ll say more about that in a bit.

When we got back home Steve and I couldn’t understand how Ray’s neck wasn’t ripped open, when we took off his lead, we noticed that there was teeth marks embedded in the collar and his name tag, basically if it wasn’t for his collar then well it would have been his neck. I checked him over and in the end found that Ray had 3 cuts, nothing serious and we were just relieved because it so easily could have been a lot worse. On reflection I should have taken the man’s details and reported him but all I remember thinking at the time is getting Ray home safely. Ray is fine, it definitely affected Steve and I more than it did the dog, he was soon tucking into his food and playing happily with his toys but it’s just vile to think what happened and what could have happened. I really hope that this is a lesson learnt to that dog owner and he keeps his dog on a lead I’d hate to think other innocent dogs are in danger because of him, what worries me is there was no trigger point for this dog to attack, he approached Ray, Ray stood still allowing this dog to sniff at him and the next thing he was hanging off of his neck.

In all of this my question to you is would you report the incident anyway?

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Latest activity by (Claire), 1 May, 2013 at 12:33
  • samjh87
    Beginner October 2012
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    This is awful but so glad Ray managed to escape with no serious injuries. Dogs always snap at our dog but luckily nothing serious has happened, it's a bit better because he is a labrador so much bigger than Ray and would take more to hurt him! Our dog is so soft that he literally would never do anything back and always ends up running off crying. My MIL has a huge lab (we think he might be a lab/ rottweiler cross) who is 10 now and he is always being attacked at the park. Last time a jack russell bit his nose and he still has a huge bit out of his nose. MIL didn't do anything at the time because she wanted to get her dog away but she did phone and report it afterwards and then there were posters put around the park warning owners to keep unruly dogs on leads.

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  • Becklarrr
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    Oh Claire poor Ray & poor you!!! I'm glad Ray is ok!

    I don't know what I would do here. Who would you report it to? And what could you say to them as you don't have any details. I suppose you could describe the dog and they might get a dog warden to patrol the park?!

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  • Mrs_imp
    Beginner June 2012
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    That sounds terrifying, I can't imagine how you must have been feeling having to watch that. I'm so glad that ray is ok.

    I would defo get it reported, you don't want to see that happening again, either to you or someone else.

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  • (Claire)
    Beginner July 2011
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    This Sam, Ray made no attempt to fight back - is this a good thing or a bad thing? I think it's a good thing, I never ever want him to be aggressive, I just don't want him to have those insticnts on the other hand he needs to stand up for himself a bit more so it's a funny one.

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  • (Claire)
    Beginner July 2011
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    and this is my dilemma. I think I'm going to report it and just see what they say.

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    Beginner October 2011
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    Poor little Ray and you!! ?

    I'm afraid, if you try to report it, you may find that no one is really interested - "Dog on Dog" attacks are not as 'important' as dog on human as we found out when a bloody huge German Shepard grabbed Jake during his walk around the dam and Jake was on his lead.

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  • samjh87
    Beginner October 2012
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    This is definitely a good thing for us and you need to see it like that too. These instances are few and far between and hopefully will never happen again but I love knowing that Mansy can/ will run up to any dog and we can trust 100% that he will cause no bother. He is daft as a brush, gets bullied by chihuahas, lets H's daughter sit on him, lets the cat bite his head and yet just stands there wagging his tail. I wouldn't trade this for knowing on the odd occassion a plonker of a dog is too rough with him he would be aggressive or fight back at all.

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  • (Claire)
    Beginner July 2011
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    You're right when you put it like that.

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  • sal.san
    Beginner December 2011
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    Oh crikey - how awful for you and H and even more so Ray! I am not an animal person at all but I would definitely report it. What if it was a child?

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  • ATB
    Beginner August 2014
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    Oh no you poor thing. I would have been equally as hysterical. I'm so glad Ray is ok, and hope he doesn't suffer any ill effects from it. May be best if you take him back to the park tonight to show him that it's not a scary place etc. (getting back on the horse and all that)

    Whilst out with my friend's dog we had the same thing happen, the dog had a silly diamantee collar on which we'd been laughing at, she was then attacked by a terrier type dog, who went for her neck. The collar definately saved her. That dog is known in the village to be aggressive, we'd tried to pick her up when we saw it but weren't quick enough.

    Again, I'm so glad he's ok and doesn't seem phased by it. Who would you report it to?

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  • (Claire)
    Beginner July 2011
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    Exactly Sal!

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    Beginner July 2011
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    Thanks ATB. We are taking him to the same park tonight as like you say we don't want him to feel anxious in the future, tonight we'll keep him on the lead and I may keep him on his lead for his next few walks because I know I'll just be paranoid every time he goes over to a dog. He's had dogs nip at him before but as soon as we've gone over or the owners have shouted the dog they've scarpered, but last night that was just hideous!

    With regards of who I report it to, I have no idea. I'm going to do some research this afty.

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  • kharv
    Beginner March 2012
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    Ok, obviously I'm coming from a perspective of an aggressive dog owner (the dog, not me Smiley laugh)

    I wouldn't have Buster off the lead in a park and I don't see any problem with reporting it to the dog warden. They might give them a bit of a warning about muzzles etc.

    I will say though, it's a massive leap to say it could have been a child. Dog on dog aggression is a completely different thing and shouldn't be confused with dog on human aggression.

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  • AmnesiaCustard
    Beginner June 2011
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    Poor Ray and you. I hope he's ok and isn't shocked or scared or anything like that.

    I have no idea who you would report the incident to - not a dog owner - do you have choice of park to go to to avoid bad dog?

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  • (Claire)
    Beginner July 2011
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    Thanks AC. He seems ok in himself but I think the real test will be when we take him back their tonight. Hopefully he'll be ok.

    Not really AC, certainly not local anyway. I shall be very vigilant in future though.

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  • (Claire)
    Beginner July 2011
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    I agree K, but it was seeing this dog completely not responding to his owner, even biting his owener hand and you just can't help think what if. I know it's different but with more and more dog attacks on children on a rise it does make you wonder.

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  • ForTheLoveOfMrsBrown
    Beginner January 2012
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    It sounds like he's a regular at the park (if another couple have seen him around before). I'd do some sleuthing, maybe a discreet following. Could you try to find out where he lives? Then you have something concrete to give details of.

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  • *Mini*
    Beginner January 2012
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    Poor ray and poor you! I can't imagine how scared you must have been.

    Is this the sort of thing you can report to the police? Not sure how ur all works but clearly that dog needs to be stopped?

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  • (Claire)
    Beginner July 2011
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    Maybe I could ask a few questions, I know alot of the regular dog walkers so I'll do some snooping tonight.

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  • (Claire)
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    Thanks Mini, it was awful just glad he's ok and that he seems ok in himself.

    I don't think I'll get much out of the police to be honest especially as I have nothing concrete to give them.

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  • kharv
    Beginner March 2012
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    I think the dog warden is the best place to start - every council should have a dog warden dept.

    Really pleased Ray is ok. Why you would ever take an aggressive dog to a busy park, un-muzzled and off the lead completely baffles me!

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    Beginner July 2011
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    I think that's the first thing I'll look at.

    Thanks K.

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  • Skeptical78
    Beginner September 2013
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    This is a personal bugbear of mine. Happens all the time around here. I work in Southampton, which has some lovely public parks. But you can't enjoy them because, the minute the sun comes out, the less salubrious local characters amass- shirts off, swigging from gigantic cans of cheap cider- with their horrid dogs; all off leads, all aggressive. It's really intimidating.

    And I don't want to be a breed 'racist', but the simple fact is that they are all Staffs / Bull Terriers, etc. I know it's daft to tar breeds with the same brush, but (as someone who is a little bit scared dogs at the best of times) when one is off the lead legging it towards you in a park, you can't help but feel a teeeeny bit anxious....! Especially when you sense that these dogs have probably been trained by their owners specifically to be aggressive (if you saw the owners, you'd know what I mean).

    I've seen them attack other dogs (on leads) and the owners just look on and laugh because they know that the authorities won't do a thing about it.

    Glad your dog is OK! ?

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    Oh no Smiley sad I am glad he's ok now how awful for you.

    I would want to report it but not sure how you would go about it. When Maggie was attacked by a dog I wanted to report it but had no idea. x

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  • (Claire)
    Beginner July 2011
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    I've been on our local council website and there is a section about warden control but it says for dog attacks call the police. I don't see the point as I have no details other than a description of the dog, so realistically there is nothing that can be done.

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  • kharv
    Beginner March 2012
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    Do they specify dog on dog attacks? I'm not sure the police won't get involved with that full stop.

    Might be worth keeping an eye out for a bit? Maybe this was enough to scare them into keeping it on a lead etc?

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  • (Claire)
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    That's what I'm hoping for.

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  • Rosco298
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    How aweful for you. This must be terrifying. I would report it even if the council/police don't seem interested at least there will be a record of it plus you don't know if anyone else has reported something similar before. Also now an agressive dog doesn't have to bite you you just have to fear they might (which considering they bit their owner would be reasonable fear). Try to relax tonight however hard it might be as Ray will pick up your worries even ifhe has forgotten the incident. I come from the same view as Kharv. Rosco can be dog agressive but is soft as butter around people including our nieces and nephews, although obviously I'd never leave him alone with them. He is a rescue so we have no idea what has happened to him. He does have some mild brain damage but againwe don't know how this happened. However as a responsible dog owner he is only allowed off the lead wearing a muzzle. He has never bitten another dog but he barks and snaps at them so if the dog barked back it may escalate. Although he was bitten by a GSD and he did nothing so who knoes. I also put him back on a lead when we approach another dog. The muzzle is just in case one pops out from behind a bush etc. which I haven't seen. We take him training every week and the difference is amazing but it has taken 2 years of hard work and we are not there yet.

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  • Kjay
    Beginner August 2013
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    Oh poor little Ray Smiley sad and you guys too, glad he seems okay. Hope the walk tonight goes okay.

    I agree with the consensus, I would try and get it reported some how or at least keep a record yourself.

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    Oh that is a horrible story. I normally just lurk on here but I feel really sad that that happened to you and your dog. I'm glad he is OK and I hope you never see that horrible aggressive dog again, how awful

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  • MummyMoo82
    Beginner October 2012
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    Your poor dog, and what irresponsible owners. I'd certainly report it, and try to see if they are there again so you can speak to them. We had a dog who could be quite aggressive or unpredictable, but as such he was always kept on a lead and never allowed to go near other dogs ( if they came near we would try and stand in the way or pick him up). Part of beings good dog owner is knowing your dogs.

    i never let the one we have off her lead, mostly because of she saw a cat or rabbit or anything she would be off like a shot! Also, she sometimes likes attention from other dogs, but other times it irritates her (shes is 12).

    Hope you get a bit of closure. X

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  • (Claire)
    Beginner July 2011
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    Hopefully not but I will be alot more vigilant in future and will certainly go a bit more prepared.

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