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Clairy
Beginner October 2003

Row with ILs - need resolution strategies quickly (long)

Clairy, 29 May, 2008 at 19:40 Posted on Off Topic Posts 0 7

I have always got on OK with my ILs but recently things have become tense. MIL has a number of medical issues, including depression, so she's very often moody. I try my best to understand this, and visit weekly and offer to help out etc. Most of the time it's OK, but she can be very critical of my appearance and the ways we live our lives and sometimes this grates.

Her sister, H's maiden Aunt, is frankly a pain in the backside - although she can be extremely generous with her time. She's very keen to help with the business and will utterly insist on helping, unpaid, to the point it makes things very awkward. Her interpersonal skills are very poor and she can be abrupt, bossy and critical.

Part of the problem is that MIL, Aunt and SIL all do things the same way - they shop in the same places, phone each other several times a day etc. It doesn't suit me to do this so I don't. I have never criticised their way of doing things, but they take great umbrage that I don't do things their way. This includes shopping for clothes for me, without asking what I like / want etc first. Very generous, but very awkward when I say "no thank you" and they have to go back. These aren't a gift: they present me with a bill for them too. Their reasoning for doing this is that they are buying them for everyone else in the family, so they honestly believe they are doing me a favour. The Aunt is very black and white about things and, I think, thinks that her ways are the best and that I am irritating, stubborn and a bit stupid for not joining in. You can imagine what I think about her ? (overbearing, unreasonable etc)

Things have been simmering for sometime because of the above issues. One thing that irks me is that Aunt and Grandad come and stay at our house, but then spend all their time and MILs and SILs and make no bones about the fact that they prefer their company. I find this quite hurtful, but at the same time I don't really want to entertain them all weekend, so I am being somewhat contrary and possibly unreasonable.

Things have been brewing about phone messages. Basically, H and I have very little time together and so we screen our calls in an evening and at weekends. MIL / Aunt phone up about the tiniest thing and if we don't phone back they get very offended. They have said they think we are extremely rude. We've just taken it on the chin for ages, smiled and carried on doing our thing. They have now got to the stage when they will phone home, the business line, then both our mobiles one after the other and leave messages saying "I have tried 4 phones to get hold of you, PHONE ME BACK IMMEDIATELY! IT'S URGENT!" and then they hang up. MIL is terrible for this (and I harbour secret dreams of bashing her with a blunt instrument when she does). She even did this in front of my friend, I was utterly humiliated. I was out driving at the time, but she still wouldn't accept that I wasn't a) at home to answer the phone and b) willing to pull over and answer the mobile until I stopped the car.

Last bank holiday Monday was the final straw. We had 15 phone calls in 20 mins, from a variety of people (before 11am). Being one of the only holidays we have, we wanted to spend the day quietly. Part of the problem was that we had offered to sell some window frames to MIL's friends. They had made no arrangements with us, but had hired a trailer and wanted to come round within the next half hour. I felt this was unreasonable, given the lack of notice and the fact it was a bank holiday. They left several arsey messages (which leads me to believe MIL has been slagging us off far and wide about this issue) and MIL phoned 6 times in 15 mins, I kid you not.

Even though I sound like a wimp, I ended up in tears. H had a right go at his Mum - he was really frank and abrupt. No-one has been in touch since, which is very rare.

Aunt and Grandad are coming to stay with us tomorrow <deep sigh> SIL hasn't got room for them, but didn't make room for them when she did. MIL says her spare room is too untidy and she's too tired to tidy it up. I can't really refuse them staying here, and I don't want to because I DON'T WANT TO FALL OUT WITH ANYONE. TBH I feel bullied.

MIL will have a public strop and Aunt will want to act like the go-between. They are starting to make noises about H being extremely grumpy and rude recently (and the implication is that I am a bad influence and not part of the family).

Given that they have to come, I really don't want a row because it's all silly and there's nothing to row about, and H is spoiling for a fight (and has a list of family grudges as long as your arm to bear, that've been bubbling inside for years) any tips for survival?

Fed up of Hull x

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Latest activity by Mrs S Smith, 29 May, 2008 at 20:01
  • Librarian Girl
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    Ok, that's a heck of a situation. Is there any way you could put aunt and grandad into a cheap B&B and at least that would give you and your H a bit of space so there's less likely to be an explosion?

    Sorry - posted too soon. The phone thing it sounds as if there's no changing - even when you point out to them not to do it they carry on, so that might just have to be a sigh and bear it. They probably don't realise quite how out of order a lot of their behaviour is, especially if they back each other up. Trouble is it will be very hard to tackle them individually if they then gossip immediately.

    Is there any way you could ask them round for an informal dinner, and then insist that they listen to you when you explain how they all make you and your H feel with their behaviour? Then at least if there is the inevitable row, it will be on your own terms and your ground.

    ? makes me relieved my ILs are at the other end of the country!

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  • MrsB
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    Oh god, I don't think I could solve that one!

    I think perhaps your H needs to speak to them and explain calmly that you are both not being rude if you want to do things a bit differently. other than barbecuing them all, I don't see what else you can do except the pair of you tough it out?

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  • deliciousdevilwoman
    Beginner November 2007
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    Yes-get the feck outta there, and let H deal!!

    Seriously.....what a nighmare. Your H was right (belatedly IMO) to tell MIL a few home truths, but the "delivery"is exacerbated in anger.

    I would consider both of you meeting with the IL's on neutral territory, and saying you don't want a rift, and outline your POV's on the KEY issues of contention (criticising your appearance/life, unreasonable/territorial demands on time as a couple etc).Tell them how this leaves you feeling. Not that you don't want them in your life-but there needs to be boundaries-also be prepared to listen to their greivances.

    Now, the chances are that they won't be reasonable and will externalise all responsibility onto you. At least you will have tried to carve a way forward-if they want to burn their bridges completely-it's their call.

    Good luck!

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  • Baby Buns
    Beginner September 2007
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    God that sounds awful - it's difficult to see how a row will be avoided unless you're willing to roll over and bite your tongue for a while, which would be very unfair for you and your H. Sounds like your MIL has one stubborn idea and everyone else has to pander to it regardless.

    No advice I'm afraid, except when the inevitable confrontation happens try to stay calm and take the higher "I'm the reasonable one" ground.

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  • Pickled Eggs
    Beginner August 2008
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    That is a horrendous situation to be in, My MIL is very like yours so I feel your pain. Nothing really constructive to add really other than the B and B idea but then I could imagine that your MIL would go off the scale about that and then start to say your a bad influence etc...I am glad that your H has stood up to his Mum though, I wish mine had.

    ? ?

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  • Clairy
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    ? at barbequing them - very tempting.

    Part of the issue is that I feel ganged up on, and H doesn't feel he's been treated the same as his sister. Basically, I get the impression that as they phone each other so many times per day they haven't got much to talk about. And so that talk is often about us. Which means that it's a series of Chinese whispers - to the point that what they're saying possibly isn't true.

    To fully resolve the situation they would want me to do, act, behave etc like them, which I am not prepared to do. Aunt is a Daily Mail reader for a start ? Which I think is part of the problem - completely opinionated, informed (in her opinion), right all the time, being right is common sense etc. She thinks I am some looney weirdo because I don't believe in everything she says.

    H is angry because they make such a fuss of his sister and her children, whilst treating us like second class citizens. SIL can be quite manipulative - they're always babysitting etc and we don't seem to get the same treatment. It doesn't bother me but I can see why it upsets him.

    My strategy - as always - is not to justify and to do what we want. This annoys the hell out of them. I don't see why I should give them a row because it's not something I would win, it'd just cause more bad feeling and I would be further ostracised from the family.

    I do wonder whether we should just accept that as MIL is depressed and ill, she will be irrational and grumpy. And then I also wonder whether I am being a doormat ?

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    Beginner July 2006
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    My only thought is to change all your phone numbers and not tell them the new ones but I'm sure that isn't a very helpful suggestion. I think the alternatives are to carry on ignoring it, submit to their demands or have it out with them!

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  • Mrs S Smith
    Beginner August 2007
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    Oh. My. God!! I don't BELIEVE that!!

    MIL is quite reasonable actually, she'll call one night, and if we don't answer, try the next night, and then mention she'd tried to call the night before, IYSWIM. The ONLY time she phone-stalks us is when Jnr Smith and Stepdaughter are down, when she'll literally call to ask if the kids are alright, and sit in silence for the rest of the phonecall! ?

    Sorry that came out as a me-me-me, but I meant for it to seem like it's REALLY not on, and I really do admire you and your H for having survived it so far!

    I don't really have any advice re: tomorrow, but just take it as it comes? Oh, that's a shitty piece of advice! ?

    OK - try again: ? there!

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