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Beginner October 2013

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MrsM*LZ, 1 December, 2013 at 18:25 Posted on Off Topic Posts 0 32

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Latest activity by Tray1980, 2 December, 2013 at 17:11
  • ForTheLoveOfMrsBrown
    Beginner January 2012
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    I'm always midly surprised to find regular dogs in pubs, so maybe not as 'expected' as you think!

    I'm going to be direct and say that I think you are overreacting in a rather large way. Other customers were disturbed by your dog, and the landlord has every right to have who she wants in her pub. Sorry.

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  • *Funky*
    Beginner January 2001
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    This

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  • pandorasbox
    Beginner August 2012
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    Maybe they're going for a different kind of feel now? Sorry you're upset but I'm sure there will be other pubs that can welcome your dog.

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  • venart
    Beginner June 2013
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    Hmmm... It's a difficult one. I'd be angry that he regular pub was changing and adversely effecting you and your ability to enjoy going there with your dog, but they make the rules.

    and I've not heard dogs barking in any of the pubs we tend to go to. Maybe barking dogs are frowned upon is most pubs? What is your dog barking at? I would disagree that dogs just bark at nothing.

    i would be more upset that they're a dog friendly pub that is sayng that not your dog isn't allowed.. But then, Wispa never barks unless she's alone, so I've not taken a barking dog into a pub before. I do agree that a lot of country pubs are dog friendly, and I'd be upset if they discriminated against my dog for no real reason, but as us aid, people have complained in the past.. So I suppose you find a different local.

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  • *Mini*
    Beginner January 2012
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    I never understand why dogs are allowed in pubs, especially when they serve food. I'm always amazed at people who take dogs in shops as well? Why?!

    if he disturbed people I can understand why you might have been asked to go, I wonder if a noisy child would have been asked to leave too? That would have been my retort.

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  • Little Pixie
    Beginner September 2011
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    I understand village pubs like this letting in dogs. Alot do at the edges of our town to allow for walkers. Not ones that serve food though.
    She is within her rights to ask you to leave if your dog is barking. Maybe they are going for a different vibe? My sisters dog is allowed in the pub where my parents drink but I cant say he has ever barked in there.

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  • M
    Beginner October 2013
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    Beginner October 2013
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    Duplicate

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  • *Pugsley*
    Beginner March 2014
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    This.

    Don't get me wrong, I love dogs but I do get taken aback whenever I see a dog in a pub or place like that expecially when they serve food. Not that I often see dogs in pubs... for me it's a rarety.

    In the pub garden, yes abssolutely fine, but in a public restaurant/pub, no.

    Guide/seeing/help dogs aside (obviously).

    I'm sorry to say it but I thiknk crying over this might be a bit of an over-reaction.

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  • *Mini*
    Beginner January 2012
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    I think it is comparable. A noisy child is just as irritating as a barking dog is I would say. I agree that I get the owners of the pub wouldn't ask a couple to leave if thier baby kept crying. I don't understand the principle of dogs in pubs but I do think its unfair for throwing one noisy one out and not the other.

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  • Arquard
    Beginner May 2011
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    Dogs are allowed in pubs??

    <is not a village person>

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  • *Mini*
    Beginner January 2012
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    City pubs do it too, I've seen it loads down here.

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  • Arquard
    Beginner May 2011
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    Ah right. Should probably edit that to <is not a pub person>. Would like to be a pub person, never have the time or money. *sigh*

    Completely missed the point of the thread anyway. Sorry, OP, but I think you're overreacting a bit and being a little bit precious about your pooch.

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  • Mellow_Yellow
    Beginner May 2012
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    I hate seeing dogs in pubs! I guess that *maybe* it makes sense in villagey places, but in urban areas I just don't get it. Tbh, a dog friendly pub would lose my custom, I really don't like it. I don't understand it either, I'm sure the dog is pretty bored just sitting about while their owner gets drunk. The types of places I tend to drink in font tend to allow dogs anyway.

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  • OB
    Beginner January 2011
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    I'd be mortified if my dog barked inside a pub.

    I agree with the majority, bit of an over reaction. Hopefully you have calmed down now anyway.

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  • *Mini*
    Beginner January 2012
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    *dog novice question*

    dont dogs bark all the time? Like just to make noise? Why would a dog bark less in a pub than they would in a shop or in the park?

    cats meow when they want. More often than not when you want them to shut up.

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  • OB
    Beginner January 2011
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    No! Ours hardly ever barks, only if we are mid play and she gets over excited or if the door goes. She's silent the rest of the time.

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  • *Mini*
    Beginner January 2012
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    Really? Is that the norm? I just thought they woofed away all the time. Not loudly nessecarly, just chatty.

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  • OB
    Beginner January 2011
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    I don't know, my mums dog is the same as ours. I think maybe some breeds are yappier than others?

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  • Sange!
    Beginner January 1997
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    I'd be mortified if any of our dogs barked in a pub. I'm not so worried about the food aspect as the prep is done in the kitchen and I really done believe that eating food in a dog allowing pub is any different from eating it in your own home if you have a dog. However OP, the building that you call a pub is also the landlords home and so far as I can see, they can have in it whomever they choose to. It just isn't up to you, so no point in totally getting out of your pram over it. Noisy dogs p*ss people off fact.

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  • bliss_balloons
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    The pubs round here would get no business if dogs weren't allowed, I think where I live it's pretty much expected that there will be dogs in pubs. Maybe it's different in towns?

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  • (Claire)
    Beginner July 2011
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    I do think you are slightly over reacting but I also see why you're upset but the book stops with the landlord.

    MY I've never witnessed dog owners in pubs drunk, whenever I've seen dogs in pubs the ownsers have a drink or 2 and then leave.

    We took Ray to the Forest of Dean and found a lovely pub dog friendly we had a nice lunch and it was all very pleasent, in fact the bar staff came over and fussed Ray. He didn't bark once though, and I can imagine if a dog is sat barking it can be annoying.

    OB - The only time Ray ever barks is when somebody knocks at the door.

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  • M
    Beginner October 2013
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    I have calmed down now this morning and thought over it all.

    We are a in a rural village with 2 pubs, one a boozy sports pub and the other a relaxed village friendly pub.

    When we take our dog in he is usually fine - yes he does bark but only once or twice but H will then take him outside and have a smoke. We would never take him there if we were going there to get drunk, only for a quick one or two. I think I got upset as it wasn't then that a complaint had been made - if we were told at the time we could have assessed the situation and dealt with it then. Thinking back i think it may have been the previous weekend when another dog was there off the lead (something we don't do) and kept coming up to Toby causing him to bark. I wonder if the customer had made a comment as its the only time i can think of where it they didn't know Toby and thought it was inappropriate.

    Oh well, sorry for my ramble and thank you for your replies. Definitely made me see it more clearly now.

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  • ATB
    Beginner August 2014
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    I agree that you've over reacted a bit. All depends the way in which it was said, perhaps they could have done that better but you have to accept it's their pub, they need to consider the majority of people who don't have dogs and drink in there.

    I (obviously) like seeing dogs in pubs. We've taken Penny once and she got a bowl of water and biscuit before we got served a drink. We had something to eat, there was another dog at the bar who's owner had a pint then went home. I don't go to the pub to get myself wasted then rock home with dog, erm, not really how it works! There is one part of the bar they are allowed, an another part they are not. People can choose to sit in either part if they are having food. The people sat around us just fussed over her, didn't seem bothered by her, but it's a small country pub so perhaps to be expected. She barked once and no one even looked round! She probably just wanted a chip....

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  • Maldives2013
    Beginner December 2013
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    I think you probably over reacted a bit, although as a lover of dogs, with a great big furry dog myself I would be peeved if I went to a pub, country or otherwise and there was a dog barking in it or being unruly, as equally annoyed as I get if there’s a kid screaming or running around! I think the landlord will just be trying to set a precedent if they are new, if people have complained to them recently they are probably being over cautious and didn’t mean to cause you any upset but were trying to appease the rest of the pub and not lose custom. I think it depends on the dog as to what people’s reactions are to it and how welcome it would be in a pub, our dog for example is a 8 month old newfoundland and weighs around 7 stone already, I wouldn’t dream of taking him to a pub, even a ‘dog friendly’ pub and expect the landlord to be happy with having him sat next to the table – he is a huge black drooling teddy bear and would get in the way of everything and everyone sat in the pub. So in the same way if you have a dog who is prone to barking ( and a few times in the pub in my opinion is a dog who is prone to barking) I wouldn’t be taking my dog to the pub.

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  • venart
    Beginner June 2013
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    Certain breeds of dog are more prone to barking (like beagles, for example), but all dogs are different. Some puppies will learn that barking gets them attention, or they learn to bark from other dogs, but some dogs never bark unless threatened. Wispa only ever barks when she's left alone, and then it's a half whine/cry/bark because she's got ridiculous separation anxiety.

    She has recently learned to bark here in Paris because she plays with other dogs who bark when they play, but that's only with this one other dog, and only when playing off lead in the woods.

    She has never barked at a person, or in a shop, or in a pub. and like OB, I'd be a bit embarrassed if she did.

    We take her to our local dog friendly pub quite often when we go for dinner. We bring a couple treats for her, and a chew toy and she lies down under the table and chews her toy while we chat with friends and eat dinner. Or she gets fussed over by people sitting nearby or the pub owners, who also give her treats. I think it's lovely, but if she weren't a well behaved and quiet dog, I would be loathe to take her with us. As it is, she gets upset being left alone for long periods of time, so she's much happier lying under our table in the pub than she'd be alone at home.

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  • M
    Beginner May 2014
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    I only take my dog to the pub if it's warm out and we'd be sitting outside. I don't think I could let him in a pub, he moults too much and I'd feel terrible his fur getting everywhere. Plus he barks at me when he wants crisps, so it would just be a nightmare.

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    Beginner October 2011
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    I love seeing dogs in pubs and would love to take our two out with us, but sadly Jake is a barker at everything that moves and the only way to shut him up would be to tie his jaws together. I tried teaching him the "speak & silent" commands, but while he was excellent at "speak" he never ever grasped "silent".

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  • Tray1980
    Beginner July 2013
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    S talks but doesn't really bark - by talking I mean he makes this daft rumbling noise (not a growl, and not a bark lol). Only time he barks is when he gets stupidly excited, the door goes or if he's crated and needs the loo (when I'm not quick enough for his liking in the morning)

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