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Bookish
Beginner August 2014

Tell me honestly - am I being an unreasonable cow?

Bookish, 27 October, 2013 at 17:04 Posted on Planning 0 10

Right, I've been warring with this for a while so I'm gonna throw it out there.

I've not been particularly close to my brother and I can't stand his girlfriend. I don't usually take such a strong stance on people but hopefully the rest of the post will fill you in on my reasons. They have been together two years.

She is currently pregnant with their second child together and she already had two children from previous relationships aged 9 and 11. I like her kids but don't see them very often.

They have an awful relationship and are both as bad as each other (my opinion but based on the following). They are very on/off and he moves back to my mums at least once a month (my mum is aware that she shouldn't let him do this but is also worried about what one of them will do if they stay in the same house as they have AWFUL arguments. She also feels it's not fair on the kids which is valid). When they have broken up she has been incredibly rude to my mum who had helped them out a lot financially. My mum is not a meddler (again I know I might see her differently but in general terms she is one if the most laid back people I know) and has been very good about saying nothing negative about her until very recently. She has also asked my mum to babysit on occasion then cancelled at the last minute (my mum really looks forward to these as she doesn't get to see the baby very often). My mum has been really good with the other kids, picking them up from school and babysitting etc. She always gets presents for all the kids rather than just the baby etc, as do I. We've very much tried to welcome them to the family when she allows us to. She doesn't let my mum or my brother see the baby when they are 'separated' which I think is the main reason he keeps going back. We've told him to fight for access and I've said he's a fool for getting her pregnant again (perhaps too meddly but I'm starting to get upset on my mum's behalf more than anything).

Last christmas my mum invited us all over on Christmas Eve. She was working on Christmas Day so this was going to be her Christmas. On the morning by brother and his girlfriend had a row and she text my mum telling her she wouldn't be coming. She refused to let him bring any if the children and they had been really looking forward to it. This concerns me with regards to them turning up for the wedding.

On a more personal (and probably quite snobby?) note she doesn't work and never has. She's just turned 30.

Part of me thinks invite them all and if they don't turn up they don't turn up. The problem with that it if they don't come that's 5 or 6 spaces that a) I've paid for and b) someone else could've had. I can only have a maximum of 75 people at the ceremony including the registrar, TOG etc and babies are included in that too. We are already having to exclude people we really want there and I'm reluctant to cut out close friends for the slight possibility of her turning up.

The reaction I've had from the people I've told so far is 'really, you're not inviting your own brother's girlfriend?'. It makes me feel like I'm an unreasonable cow. Maybe I am? Some objectivity please.

My OH isn't a fan if either of them but understands he is my brother. We'd recently agreed that we would invite them and see what happens but then they broke up and my brother has now been back at my mum's for two weeks. I've spoken to him about all if this and also said I would love for his don to be a page boy but I'm worried he won't be allowed to come. He agreed that this would probably be the case and got quite upset.

They may well be together again next week, they may not. Aargh, what to do?! Invites go out after Christmas. Sorry to ramble!

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Latest activity by Ohwhatatuesday, 27 October, 2013 at 20:39
  • Bookish
    Beginner August 2014
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    And thanks to anyone who bothers to read this, I didn't realise how much I'd written. Oops!

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  • michonne
    Beginner August 2014
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    I don't think you're being unreasonable at all. And you're certainly not a cow.

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  • Elixia
    Beginner March 2014
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    Seeing how volatile they seem to be if you don't invite her it could be your brother and your mum who gets the flack. It could all exploded in a big way! seems a bit odd how babies are counted as a head as well as TOG etc. is that a health and safety thing?

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  • Bookish
    Beginner August 2014
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    Yeah Elixia, fire regulations mean max capacity is 75. I know what you mean about the flak. Until recently I think my mum has been of the opinion that I should invite her regardless (she's not said as much I just got that feeling) but now I think even she has changed her mind. My other worry is that they would argue on the day. I don't think they would as she seems to be on her best behaviour around extended family but who knows?

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  • Elixia
    Beginner March 2014
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    Ooooh, did you say your invites go out after xmas? I think i would make her one as a backup but hold fire and watch the situation carefully. if she's still not 'stable' by then maybe cut your losses and not invite her ... thou if you wanna make a point, invite the kids since they're innocent in this (thou that could cause tension).

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  • Bookish
    Beginner August 2014
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    I know, I don't want to not invite the kids as it's not fair on them but I'm also 95% sure she wouldn't allow them to come without her even if they weren't together. It would still mean not being able to invite others as I don't think she would let me know til the last minute (if ever) if they were coming. This is my dilemma.

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  • J
    Beginner June 2014
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    This is a tricky one. The on/off relationship is not helping the situation. 5-6 people not turning up do cost a lot and it doesn't look great if the table is more than 1/2 empty!

    The only thing is that you could invite your brother plus 1, whoever he chooses to bring. Whether that would be her or the baby is his choice. I think in that way he could decide who he's going to take with him rather than you.

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  • Bookish
    Beginner August 2014
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    Thanks Juliana that might not be a bad idea and it's one I hadn't thought of. It just means excluding the other children which is a shame but there may not be a way around it.

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  • P
    Beginner November 2014
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    I sympathise completely. My partners family are a nightmare to the point we really wanted to go abroad to get married with just my side. However the what made us change our minds was the backlash we foresaw and that is my only worry for you. It sounds like the main problem is the girlfriend and your brother feels trapped between and rock and a hard place with the children. I would see how Christmas goes. Although she sounds a nightmare she would probably behave her self on the day like a good actress to the rest of the family. Would there be any other children there ? If not you could consider saying it was an adults only and also depending on how small the little one is do you need to count them as guest if they are unlikely to need an adults meal? Sorry don't mean to sound calculating just trying to thing of ways to could try to include your friends you haven't been able to invite yet.

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  • Bookish
    Beginner August 2014
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    My OH's half brother and sister who will be 6 and 13 will be there, as will flower girls from 2-3 years of age. The baby she is expecting would only be three months at the time of the wedding which is another complication as at that age I wouldn't want to ask someone to leave their baby. Their other child together will be two. Because there are so many children I can't really get away with saying that. I agree that if she does comes she'll most likely be on her best behaviour, I'd just be expecting a text up until the morning if the wedding saying they weren't coming.

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  • Ohwhatatuesday
    Beginner May 2014
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    Are you having extra evening guests? Could you not just earmark some as 'bumped' guests just in case she cancels at the last minute? There's often last minute cancellations and evening guests are often happy to be bumped up. I'd invite them but not make the little boy a page boy as a this will cause much more disruption/upset if they cancel late notice. In an ideal world you want the kids there and its not their fault so just invite her too if she doesn't let them come and you can find evening guests to come you can solve it that way?

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