The Walking Dead returns! possible spoilers.

Yay!!! I had no idea it was Monday.... Thanks for the heads-up!

No idea what's going to happen, but I think that's what's great about the programme, you just don't know what's coming next. Maybe baby Judith will come back as Queen on the walkers?! ;-)

Beyond excited. Need my Daryl fix.

I follow numerous TWD pages on FB, and have been glossing over any possible spoilers.

OmG I'm pretty sure terminus is a cannibal town! Can't wait!

I know! I cant wait for a Daryl fix either! Monday still feels like too long to wait!

Looking at the trailer for season 5 shown at Comic Con I think we get a few insights as to where it may go this season. I have also heard there may be some deaths which could upset people. But as many say 'If Daryl dies, we riot!' lol.

Can't wait - I'm pleased we're getting some good telly again.

Watched the Comic Con trailer the other day and looks like an interesting turn of events so wondering how it all pans out.

I know what you mean SallyLou the trailer hints at so many things! I just cant wait to see what unfolds!

Yay, I'm so excited!!!! I watched the trailer, can't wait! i want to know what happened to Beth! Are we going to have our usual discussion thread? can't wait!!!

That's what l thought! I can't wait either. Roll on being able to watch it....

I am ready, have wine and a take away ordered!!!

I wana watch the next one NOW!!!!

That was awesome!!!

Beth - where the hell are you??

Roll on next Monday!

I frickin' loved it!

*spoiler* Gutted that we didn't see Beth, but super excited for Morgan's return at the end!

I love Carol, they have done such a good job of developing her character. I can't wait for ep.2!

I love Carol too. And Carol and Daryl together too, it's such a lovely, unexpected friendship :-).

Best episode for a long while.... so brutual & few moments where the tears welled up. Also, I think i'm developing a bit of a girl crush on Carol - she is such a bad ass!!

I did have hopes last season that Michonne and Daryl would get together, I've always thought the Daryl/Carol was a more brotherly/sisterly type relationship. But I read an article a couple of weeks back with the actress who plays Beth and she implied there may be a romantic relationship between Beth & Daryl. I hope not Beth is my least favourite character.

Ahhhhhh, we didnt have any audio on the version we dowloaded last nightvso only just watched it!!

I was literally sat on the edge of the sofa the whole episodecand I actually air punched more than once!

I was so nervous for Carol being dressed as a walker!! Also the scenes with Judith are hard to watch as E is a similar age!!!

So they are all back together now except for beth (which im not too bothered about!) I feel a lot better about that!

I loved the very end, before the reveal I thought it may have been the governor and couldnt remember if he is still alive or not??!!

The dint kill the boss baddy did they, just shot his arm, he will be super pissed now especially as one of them has killed his mum!

One quick question, how did carol clean her face??!!

It looks like Gareth is still alive, if you don't see the body assume they are living!

Speaking of which, do you think Tyreese really did kill the guy in the cabin? Why wouldn't he let Carol inside?

Also, who do you think is making the circle/cross markings that Morgan is following?

That marking was also tattooed on the long haired blokes face, who came charging out the container.

So glad it was a good episode. The second half of S4 was so dull, I was losing interest.

Watched it last night and it was great!

Not sure what to think about Eugene's "cure" though.

Cat in a Teacup - I think he probably killed the guy, but maybe in a really brutal fashion he was ashamed of? Knowing the writers it'll come up again at some point.

Good to see Morgan, interesting to see where that's going to go.

Oh yes i remember, after Hershal :-(

maybe he didnt let Carol in because he had beated him to a mushy pulp! Although that wouldnt have bothered Carol, she is hard as nails now!

Yep, I think Gareth is still alive and will be after some serious revenge!!!

not sure about the marks but it was leading the way that the gang went wasnt it?

Bit random but when they showed the clip of Gareth's mum being thrown back in the container, I wasnt sure if the guy who threw her in was one of the other gange, the one that Daryl was with briefly adn the Rick killedone of then bit thr throat out of another!

I'm torn, over the cure.

He either has one, as he was part of the team that is to blame for the whole thing, or there is no cure, and he is using that to get people to protect him.

As for Beth, I think she was taken by a cult, who are responsible for the markings.

The man who had it tattooed on his face, was part of that group. Unsure about him saying "we're the same" when he charged out though.

considering Tara was "promoted" to main cast, you barely saw her.

I still don't think he has a cure. He didn't really say anything with hid 'fight fire with fire' speech! I said to H when the zombie apocalypse comes im going to pretend i have a secret cure so that i have to be protected! I though he meant 'we're the same' as in 'im not a walker, I'm human like u" then he went crazy, he had obviously been in there a while!! I wonder if Beth gets brain washed and goes against the gang. They seem to have forgotten about her!!

Yeah his speech was a lot of big words with no actual substance!

The crazy face tattoo guy is the guy from the end scene isn't he? The one who throws Mary back into the container and picks another girl, telling them it will not be alright. He has his hair tied back and looked less crazy but I am pretty sure it was him. That would mean the 'we're the same' is referencing them treating him as badly as he did them. Why they kept him alive though I don't know...

I don't really care about Beth, especially since the actress hinted at a Daryl/Beth romance! Ugh!

Yeah his speech was a lot of big words with no actual substance!

The crazy face tattoo guy is the guy from the end scene isn't he? The one who throws Mary back into the container and picks another girl, telling them it will not be alright. He has his hair tied back and looked less crazy but I am pretty sure it was him. That would mean the 'we're the same' is referencing them treating him as badly as he did them. Why they kept him alive though I don't know...

I don't really care about Beth, especially since the actress hinted at a Daryl/Beth romance! Ugh!

Oh you guys are so observant!

Just been discussing it with H, There was an attack on Terminus before the herd arrived and before Carol arrived

what was that all about? I remember Gareth's mum telling Carol that they escaped and took control again but that was obviously way before as Gareth wouldn't have kept his mum locked up.

What did i miss?

As far as I am aware the timeline is as follows:

Gareth, Mary, Alex and some other folk set up Terminus as a safe haven sometime after the world is zombified. It really is a safe haven, they want to rebuild a society so put up the sign and send out the radio signal.

After a awhile they let in a group of people who turn out to be bandits. They imprison the original Terminus occupants, beating, torturing and raping them. This goes on for weeks until the Termites finally escape and take back terminus. I imagine that they then imprison the the tattooed face guy and make him crazy for some reason rather than killing him. They decide 'Never again, Never Trust, We First, Always'. They keep up the signs and decide that eating people is a really good idea.... There is no evidence to suggest they keep anyone alive.

Rick's gang then turn up in dribs and drabs, (presumably a little while after the previous events) and are captured. Through some miracle of timing Carol is able to use the impending herd and confusion to blow up the tank and try to rescue the others.

I don't remember there being mention of another attack but I may have missed it... did the guy with Tyreese explain why he had fireworks?

Also, was the first guy at the trough the one who Rick gave his watch to? Is that the watch that Carol picks up in the belongings room?

Yeah, the Slim Shady wannabe was the dude Rick gave his watch to.

The fireworks were to be set off, to confuse the walkers, and keep them away from Terminus (I think)

He did look like Slim Shady! ahh, clever idea with the fireworks, makes sense

Yeah the fireworks were a distraction like day of the deaf and the 'flowers' When they were in the trough room they heard shooting. Carol and tyrese (sp) were hiding from the herd when they heard shooting that they guessed came from terminus then the herd started heading towards terminus. Trying to figure out that that shooting was??!!

My mind is blown reading this thread! I can't stop thinking about all your theories.

I forgot about the first set of gun fire too! The one that sent the herd in their direction. Good spot!