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Coco90
Beginner March 2013

Venue trouble

Coco90, 6 March, 2013 at 15:09 Posted on Planning 0 24

So, the wedding is a week on Saturday. Was excited but now slightly worried. Back in September we booked the use of a hotel's ballroom as our reception venue. It was all well and good at the time as we fell in love with it immediately but then my H2B's elderly Grandma had an accident and she can't walk upstairs anymore.So that coupled with this venue being very expensive mean that we cancelled in favour of a more relaxed, better value for money venue. So I left it in the hands of my H2B to cancel it with the original place. We'd only paid £50 deposit and we weren't shown any T&C. I got a phone call today from Venue #1 asking about what food we wanted and the final balance etc. So I said we'd changed our minds, told them a while ago but of course, he'd forgotten to call. Not his fault, had bigger fish to fry. Just a little worried now because its 10 days away, can they take us to court or anything? The woman on the phone wasn't too happy which I can understand as it looked like we'd been discourteous. I feel so bad about it, not bothered about the deposit. Help/experiences much appreciated!

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Latest activity by Wedding Photography By Bill Haddon, 6 March, 2013 at 22:22
  • kharv
    Beginner March 2012
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    If you were never shown a contract or any T's & C's I don't think they can do anything.

    Have you checked all your emails and correspondence just in case?

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  • Coco90
    Beginner March 2013
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    Thanks for your quick reply! All we have was a little invoice from when we paid the deposit. Nothing on that and no emails. Plus there's nothing on their website. Hoping they don't take it further.

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  • DaffodilWaves
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    Unless you have signed a contract then I doubt they can do anything.

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  • Coco90
    Beginner March 2013
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    That's what I hoped, but couldn't help having a little wobble about it. First thing that actually has the potential to go wrong throughout the whole process!

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  • kharv
    Beginner March 2012
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    I don't think they realistically can.

    Try and relax and enjoy the run up to your wedding Smiley smile

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  • Coco90
    Beginner March 2013
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    Ha, I'll try. Phew!! Thanks for helping to clear that one up. Smiley smile

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  • kharv
    Beginner March 2012
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    If they try, just say you have consulted a solicitor and that due to never seeing or signing any contract or terms and conditions, you have been advised that you don't owe anything.

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  • Coco90
    Beginner March 2013
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    OK, I'll bear that in mind. You never know. Smiley smile

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  • BarcaGirl25
    Beginner April 2014
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    Hello!

    can I ask whether the invoice for your deposit detailed any other payment details and whether you have ongoing eemail correspondence with them since the deposit payment?

    only reason I ask is cos I just asked my boss (a partner in a law firm) and he said an implied contract could be established by actions of payment and acceptance of payment.

    whether or not they can recover money for cancellation then depends on the reasonableness of the terms they are seeking to enforce.

    PM me if you want to get into further detail, I hope it will all be fine but I wanted to mention what he said.

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  • Coco90
    Beginner March 2013
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    All the invoice says is basically that we'd paid £50 on September 29th last year. H2B hasn't even signed it. Doesn't have a date for when balance payment was due. They just said they'd call me closer to. No emails, texts, nothing until today.

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  • BarcaGirl25
    Beginner April 2014
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    You should be ok, but I still worry about the offer and acceptance that was made and the contract being formed when you paid the deposit and they accepted it, acknowledged by the invoice.

    If I were you I'd call citizens advice then you know for sure. Without more details I can't be certain 100%.

    I don't want to worry you I just wanted to give you my perspective on it. To be frank it'll probably just mean you lose your deposit.

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  • kharv
    Beginner March 2012
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    That would be my thoughts.

    Is it even written anywhere what date the deposit was for? As in wedding date, not the date you paid.

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  • Coco90
    Beginner March 2013
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    Yeah, it said for 16th March at the very bottom. Tbh, I'm not bothered about the deposit. It's a drop in the ocean with the rest of the money we've spent at this point! I'd be too embarrassed to go in and get it, even if they are wiling to give it back. There was absolutely no mention of how much notice we had to give them if we wanted to cancel, the man we met was basically just 'Put your card in here. here's your invoice. We'll be in touch. Bye' Maybe it's worth calling CAB in the meantime. Will have to discuss it with H2B when he gets home. Thank for all your advice guys. It's a tricky one, I know.

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  • kharv
    Beginner March 2012
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    I honestly don't think you'll be liable for anything except the deposit (if that but can understand you not being bothered for £50).

    We always harp on on here about brides making sure they have a contract with the venue to protect themselves as otherwise the venue can get away with price hikes etc. I see no reason why it wouldn't be the same the other way round - without a contract you can cancel with no liability.

    What would they even bill for? You could say you were hiring the hall just to sit in it all day on your own with no food and drink!

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  • Saisi
    Beginner June 2011
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    If you were going to keep the original venue, it's pretty poor of them not to have contacted you until a week before anyway! I kinda think they've got to shoulder some of the blame here since they've displayed appalling customer service by not getting in touch ONCE to confirm all is okay, and leaving only a week to arrange the food(!)

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  • kharv
    Beginner March 2012
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    Completely agree!

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  • ForTheLoveOfMrsBrown
    Beginner January 2012
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    My first thought.

    Waste no more time worrying about it.

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  • BarcaGirl25
    Beginner April 2014
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    Couldn't agree more! It's terrible service!

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  • Coco90
    Beginner March 2013
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    I never thought of it that way. But the 2 people I have spoken to weren't exactly the nicest and they're charging nearly twice what the new venue are and it's just not as nice. Hope I don't hear anymore from them. Feel so much better about it so thanks ladies!

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  • clarehj
    Beginner April 2012
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    Nothing helpful to add, other amazed you could book a venue for a deposit of £50! That's all!

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  • erinm
    Beginner August 2013
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    My thoughts exactly! The chef wouldn't have even had time to order your food if you were getting married there next Saturday!! Sounds like they forgot you to be honest I wouldn't worry about being obligated to pay them anything further xx

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  • Wedding Photography By Bill Haddon
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    This is my own take and is just my own opinion and I am not qualified to give any legal advice.
    This is the whole point about a contract - it is not for your benefit whatso ever although by accident it may prove to be. It is all for the protection and benefit of the person issuing the contract, if you had one it would state that you will have to pay quite possibly the full amount with 10 days to go. Do you think the same contract would say that if they cancelled on you that you would get "x" £ amount to pay for a new venue. It would even state that they reserve the right to increase the costs if your booking is say 2015. And even if you do have a contract it is not worth the paper it is written on if the venue goes bust and is taken over by a new owner,as has happened to some of the Brides on here. So don't think a contract is the be and end all, if they sent you a quote and then you paid the deposit - therefore accepting it then that would be the implied contract for that amount. But as nothing was in writing about your penalties for a late cancellation then there is nothing to pay.
    They have learnt a lesson and you may of had a lucky escape.
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