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cornflake girl, 4 April, 2008 at 17:05 Posted on Off Topic Posts 0 14

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At this moment in time I am unable to identify which classes of children will be effectedid="red">.

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At this moment in time I am unable to identify which classes of children will be affectedid="red">.

I'm pretty sure I know the answer, just want to check - will explain why later.

The reason why I ask is because all of the teachers received a letter this afternoon to give to the parents. In it was the 1st sentence from above. I was 100% certain that it was incorrect. I spoke to another teacher who agreed. While I was speaking to that teacher, one of the office staff was there are reported back what I had said to the head teacher.

The teacher and myself decided to alter our letters to the correct spelling as we felt it looked awful that the parents would receive an incorrect letter from people who are responsible for educating their children.

Anyway, a little later in the afternoon the head teacher came down to my classroom, stormed in and had a go at me in front of the children with words including 'When I've signed something you have no right to alter it', 'I've not got time to deal with things like this' etc etc and stormed back out. This made me angry and upset and reduced me to tears.id="red">

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Latest activity by Marmite, 4 April, 2008 at 20:41

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*Kitty* · 4 April, 2008 at 17:06
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Im guessing the 2nd one.
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Moose in the Garage · 4 April, 2008 at 17:07
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I would say affected although I think strictly speaking you can use either but I think affected sounds better.
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Wordsworth · 4 April, 2008 at 17:07
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I'd say the second one.
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sdaisy22 · 4 April, 2008 at 17:07
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It's the 2nd.
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Jenbo · 4 April, 2008 at 17:09
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2nd one is what I'd use
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SophieM · 4 April, 2008 at 17:10
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Effect = noun (the effect X has on Y)

affect = verb (X affects Y)
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Sia* · 4 April, 2008 at 17:13
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This always gets me, I never know which one to choose.

Thanks Sophie for the simple explanation!
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Hoobygroovy · 4 April, 2008 at 17:14
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quote:Originally posted by Moose in the Garage
I would say affected although I think strictly speaking you can use either but I think affected sounds better.
id="quote">Both can be used as verbs, yes, but only affected can be used in this instance. Their meanings are completely different. You would effect a change, for example. You wouldn't effect a class of children.
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The Beast · 4 April, 2008 at 17:40
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Bloody hell, how professional! Poor you. ?
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Hoobygroovy · 4 April, 2008 at 17:45
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What an unprofessional cretin your head teacher seems to be. FWIW, I think you did the right thing as such fundamental errors in letters from organisations which should know better bug the heck out of me.
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cornflake girl · 4 April, 2008 at 17:46
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quote:Originally posted by The Beast
Bloody hell, how professional! Poor you. ?

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I know, and it's not the first time he's done it. He spent half of the afternoon looking in dictionaries and he's taken it out on me because he made a mistake (except that he still maintains he's right). Obviously I wanted to know that I was right but what really upset me was that he had a go at me in front of all of my class.
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Braw Wee Chanter · 4 April, 2008 at 17:49
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She's clearly hacked off that she didn't spot it before signing it but she shouldn't be hacked off with you for making sure it didn't go out to parents unaltered with her signature on it. You actually did her a favour!

And a fat [B)] for the bint who earwigged and then went and blabbed.

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Rache · 4 April, 2008 at 18:03
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The moment in time cliché would have annoyed me too, but at least it's not wrong.

i'm staggered that a head teacher can get such a basic thing wrong.

PS tell me you corrected it in red pen...
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cornflake girl · 4 April, 2008 at 20:31
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quote:Originally posted by Rache
the moment in time cliché would have annoyed me too, but at least it's not wrong.

i'm staggered that a head teacher can get such a basic thing wrong.

PS tell me you corrected it in red pen...id="red">
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This made me laugh and cheered me up a bit. I wish I had done and put 'see me' at the bottom.
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Marmite · 4 April, 2008 at 20:41
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You are like me Cornflake Girl - I always get cross with our bursar as her grammar is awful, as is her spelling. However, I wouldn't have corrected a letter a Headteacher sent out and I can see where he is coming from - yes, he has been unprofessional shouting at you in front of the class, but I feel you have also been unprofessional in changing a letter he has written. My guess is that most of the parents would not have noticed in the letter and now you have altered it, they will, hence drawing attention to the Head's mistake. At the end of the day, he is in charge of the school and staff are not there to undermine him, especially not in front of parents. Sorry if this is not what you wanted to hear, but this is my view!
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