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Spamboule
Beginner October 2008

Do you always wear a seat belt?

Spamboule, 2 April, 2008 at 18:58

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I regularly drive up and down the M4 going to meetings as well as driving through London and it never fails to amaze me just how many people don't wear a seat belt. What really worries me is when I see people driving without a seatbelt on & children in the back not wearing seat belts. Why would...

I regularly drive up and down the M4 going to meetings as well as driving through London and it never fails to amaze me just how many people don't wear a seat belt.

What really worries me is when I see people driving without a seatbelt on & children in the back not wearing seat belts.

Why would anyone do this?

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  • Spring
    Beginner February 2008
    Spring ·
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    I put it on without thinking about it

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  • LoulaM
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    quote:Originally posted by summer solstice
    quote:Originally posted by anjumanji
    quote:Originally posted by *Trouble*


    well, i'd rather have a screaming baby than an injured one - you may trust your H's driving but what about other peoples?
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    I totally agree with you Trouble, however seeing my baby working herself into a state and vomitting all over herself during a one hour journey is not something that's easily endured. I take the risk to remove her from the seat, pacify her and put her back in rather than get to the point where she won't be consoled at all. I just live in the hope that she'll grow out of this soon and I won't be exposing her to the risk.
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    I have to say - I really can't see where you're coming from at all here. I can't understand why a mother wouldn't prefer a baby throw up on herself, and take a long time to settle than the possible consequences of taking her out of her car seat. I can see that the throwing up and screaming would be very very distressing, but I cannot see how it would ever warrant carrying a baby in a vechile without being appropriately restrained. It only takes one mistake from another driver.
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    Absolutely WSS. My son is really bad on long journeys but even when he's screaming his head off, it just wouldn't occur to me to take him out of his car seat.
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  • anjumanji
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    The reason for this is because the first time she did it, I left her in the seat until I got home. There was nothing I could do to pacify her, the screaming and crying was so intense she'd gone bright red and sweaty. When I took her out of the car I actually thought she was fitting from overheating, even though I'd removed most of her clothes in the car to make her more comfortable. That experience was so horrible that I do occasionally remove her from the seat. It's not something I do on every journey and it's not something I do lightly.

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  • Nun
    Beginner September 2006
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    I always put my seat belt on. It has possibly saved my life twice.

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  • Hoobygroovy
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    I always do, even if I'm just moving the car from where it's parked a little way up the road to the front of my house. It's second nature and just feels wrong to drive without it.

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  • kierenthecommunity
    Beginner May 2005
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    Even though i've has my driving license for aaaaages, its always been the law in my driving lifetime to wear one. so its automatic

    took longer to always do it as a back seat passenger though

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  • babygreenuk
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    Yes i do, always.

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  • Maxi
    Beginner February 2008
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    Non seatbelt wearing passengers are a great source of irritation to me. I even start to get red in the face if I spot one at traffic lights.

    I was in an accident 10 years ago, a road incident had occured ahead of me in a dual carriageway, everyone had to break instantly from 70 mph. I was driving a metro, the woman behaind me in a large SAAB. I had two 12 years old in the back of the car, fortunately strapped in.

    The woman behind was too close and hit us. My car was a complete write off and I couldn't believe that the back passengers weren't hurt.

    At that time the importance of rear seatbelts wasn't really common knowledge. I now know that had one of the kids been unbelted we probably would have both faced severe injuries.

    My BIL used to drive around without a belt on all the time, his excuse was that as he drive a 'workies' van all the time, he couldn't get used to it. He recently got fined for not wearing a belt, not before time.

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  • Ms. Scarlett
    Beginner April 2007
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    No, because it's quite rare that they are fitted here. I don't have my own car, so this applies to taxis and friend's cars. Yes, there are far more deaths on the road (not just because of the seatbelt absence, but it's bound to be a factor).

    I also don't wear one in my PILs car, as they don't have them fitted in the back/they're trapped under the seat (it isn't an ancient car either). MIL holds her seatbelt across her without actually doing it up. What she thinks this will achieve I'm not sure.

    If I had my own car I would certainly use the seatbelt. I really don't see the point in not doing so.

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  • M
    Beginner September 2004
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    I always wear a seat belt and make sure that anyone who travels in my car puts their seat belt on. I won't actually move my car until I know everyone has their seat belt on.

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  • cariad
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    quote:Originally posted by anjumanji


    I totally agree with you Trouble, however seeing my baby working herself into a state and vomitting all over herself during a one hour journey is not something that's easily endured. I take the risk to remove her from the seat, pacify her and put her back in rather than get to the point where she won't be consoled at all. I just live in the hope that she'll grow out of this soon and I won't be exposing her to the risk.
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    by doing this though arent you showing her that if she screams she gets her own way and can come out of the seat , so its going to get harder as she gets older and realises she can get away with it [?]

    kids are pretty quick at picking up on things like this and i think you are making a rod for your own back for later on in life
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  • hope
    Beginner June 2007
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    Always

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  • Gryfon
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    I always wear one now. Over here you don't have to belt up in the back but after seeing that advert of the boy not strapped in who kills his mother by flying into her I always do and make sure everyone else is.

    Feels strange now not to wear one.

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  • Flowery the Grouch
    Beginner December 2007
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    One of the scariest taxi trips in my life was in Sofia. The car had no seatbelts at all, not even in the front. It had been converted to run on LPG, but not properly - the gas was in a cylinder in the boot, which rolled about, putting stress on the connecting cable.

    The driver was quite, um, aggressive and erratic - heavy accelerating, late breaking, swerving into and out of lanes, driving on the pavement occasionally to get round people.

    In the front of the car, mounted on the dashboard he had a little screen. he used it to access his music collection, get details from the taxi depot (at least that's what it looked like) and watch TV. When he was driving. He watched TV.

    The whole combination of no seatbelt, loose gas tank, aggressive driving and telly watching petrified me!

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  • Ladelley
    Beginner August 2008
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    quote:Originally posted by anjumanji
    quote:Originally posted by *Trouble*


    well, i'd rather have a screaming baby than an injured one - you may trust your H's driving but what about other peoples?
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    I totally agree with you Trouble, however seeing my baby working herself into a state and vomitting all over herself during a one hour journey is not something that's easily endured. I take the risk to remove her from the seat, pacify her and put her back in rather than get to the point where she won't be consoled at all. I just live in the hope that she'll grow out of this soon and I won't be exposing her to the risk.
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    Bloody hell. I've driven in tears because my baby is screaming in the back, but I'd much rather her screaming and inconsolable than dead. I know I'm a good driver, but there are so many dickheads on the roads that I can't trust my driving not to get us in an accident.

    My husband did this once, about a mile from home. It's the only fight we've ever had. He won't be doing it again.
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    I dont switch the ignition on until everyone in the car is belted

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  • NickJ
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    quote:Originally posted by Mr. 1576
    I dont switch the ignition on until everyone in the car is belted
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    see my post knucklehead ?
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  • Librarian Girl
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    Last time there was a thread on this I admitted to sometimes going without as a passenger if we've stopped on the way home at the corner shop - one way street, speed bumps, journey about 200m. Got quite rightly told what a twit I was being, what about boy racer nobheads etc bashing into the back of us?

    Ever since then I've thought about that thread every time we stop and stick the belt on ? Oh the power of hitched!

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    quote:Originally posted by NickJ
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. 1576
    I dont switch the ignition on until everyone in the car is belted
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    see my post knucklehead ?
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    Ah, Important safety tip ?

    I am so not awake this morning. Maybe its the thought of a "blue sky" meeting in 40 mins....
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  • NickJ
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    Interestingly (or not, depending on your PO), if you put your belt on before you turn on the ignition when doing the ROSPA test, they fail you. my guy told me that apart from overheating issues, the biggest fire risk with cars is on ignition. he s an ex police driver trainer, and he takes it to the extreme, by leaving his door open, turning on the ignition, waiting for 30 seconds, then shutting the door, belting etc.

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  • Z
    Beginner February 2008
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    I always try to put the seat belt on, but in some cars the belt isnt long enough for me (being a lard arse). I dont know if it actually helps in an accident but I put the belt so that its around me instead (if that makes sense). It annoys me that some car makers don't think about larger passengers.

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  • Helen**
    Beginner March 2015
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    quote:Originally posted by anjumanji
    quote:Originally posted by *Trouble*


    well, i'd rather have a screaming baby than an injured one - you may trust your H's driving but what about other peoples?
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    I totally agree with you Trouble, however seeing my baby working herself into a state and vomitting all over herself during a one hour journey is not something that's easily endured. I take the risk to remove her from the seat, pacify her and put her back in rather than get to the point where she won't be consoled at all. I just live in the hope that she'll grow out of this soon and I won't be exposing her to the risk.
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    I totally agree with Trouble, even with the crying which all parents find distressing I don't get why you would do it. H and I would never ever take our daughter out of her car seat while the car was moving - and believe me we have a screamer! Have you thought about what would happen if you crashed while she was out and heaven forbid you lost her? I imagine you could charged with manslaughter considering you now you are breaking the law and putting her at risk.
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  • Flowery the Grouch
    Beginner December 2007
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    quote:Originally posted by Zoë
    I always try to put the seat belt on, but in some cars the belt isnt long enough for me (being a lard arse). I dont know if it actually helps in an accident but I put the belt so that its around me instead (if that makes sense). It annoys me that some car makers don't think about larger passengers.
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    How do you stand legally in that situation? Can you get seat-belt extenders? Could you be prosecuted for not wearing the seat-belt even if you physically can't?
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  • Z
    Beginner February 2008
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    quote:Originally posted by Flowery the Grouch
    quote:Originally posted by Zoë
    I always try to put the seat belt on, but in some cars the belt isnt long enough for me (being a lard arse). I dont know if it actually helps in an accident but I put the belt so that its around me instead (if that makes sense). It annoys me that some car makers don't think about larger passengers.
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    How do you stand legally in that situation? Can you get seat-belt extenders? Could you be prosecuted for not wearing the seat-belt even if you physically can't?
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    I really don't know to be honest. Our car is fine, but every now and then I have to get in a car where it doesnt fit, I always try to wear it, but if its too small, there is nothing I can do other than place it so I am in the middle of the belt.
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  • Ladelley
    Beginner August 2008
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    quote:Originally posted by NickJ
    interestingly (or not, depending on your PO), if you put your belt on before you turn on the ignition when doing the ROSPA test, they fail you. my guy told me that apart from overheating issues, the biggest fire risk with cars is on ignition. he s an ex police driver trainer, and he takes it to the extreme, by leaving his door open, turning on the ignition, waiting for 30 seconds, then shutting the door, belting etc.
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    That's interesting. I always turn the ignition on, make sure my mirrors and seat are adjusted properly (share a car) and then put my seatbelt on. My husband just passed his test in November, and he was told to put his seatbelt on before turning the car on.

    I'll have to tell him that. Maybe I could also get him to stop doing his silly shuffle steering as well.?
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  • Z
    Beginner February 2008
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    quote:Originally posted by Flowery the Grouch
    quote:Originally posted by Zoë
    I always try to put the seat belt on, but in some cars the belt isnt long enough for me (being a lard arse). I dont know if it actually helps in an accident but I put the belt so that its around me instead (if that makes sense). It annoys me that some car makers don't think about larger passengers.
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    How do you stand legally in that situation? Can you get seat-belt extenders? Could you be prosecuted for not wearing the seat-belt even if you physically can't?
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    Hmm Ive been looking since you asked this and can't find much information. It seems the law is 'if a seat belt is avaliable' so perhaps if its too small its not avaliable?
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  • bernie@ floralpride
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    Always have worn my seat belt since taking my test in 1978.
    I will not drive if someone refuses to buckle up.

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  • *CJ*
    Beginner September 2011
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    quote:Originally posted by legless
    always wear one, i've luckily survived breaking a windscreen with my head, i wouldn't have survived going through it or the person behind me going through me to get to it.
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    The same thing happened to me. I always wear a seatbelt now
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  • Redhead
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    Yes, I do. As does everyone who gets in my car. I would never, ever take my child out of her car seat (when she was in one) or drive like a maniac when she is in the car. No matter what.

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  • michelle f
    Beginner May 2005
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    I always put a seat belt on, it was instilled into me at a young age.

    My inlaws don't seem to think it's as important though. When we arrived in South Africa with our 1yr old, they told me I needn't have bothered bringing the car seat as, "I could just sit her on my lap." ☹️!]

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    I always wear mine. MrV doesn't care and NEVER wears his. I am fed up arguing/trying to reason with him etc The man is a stubbord arse.

    He even has an alarm that goes off if he isnt belted in so he leaves it blaring in my ears until about 8 mins then it stops.☹️!]

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  • chids
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    quote:Originally posted by Bowski
    Yes and I make sure that everyone in my car does as well.
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    wbs
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