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Treacle tart
Beginner January 2006

Do you believe?

Treacle tart, 1 April, 2008 at 20:35

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I went to see a psychic a few years ago and then just before I got wed. I was quite sceptical and didnt know what to expect. It was all very weird. The first time was all about my mother - she passed away 11 years ago now from breast cancer. She told me that she no longer has to wear her wig as she...

I went to see a psychic a few years ago and then just before I got wed.
I was quite sceptical and didnt know what to expect.
It was all very weird. The first time was all about my mother - she passed away 11 years ago now from breast cancer. She told me that she no longer has to wear her wig as she has lovely hair now 'up there'.
She also told me several other things that she couldnt possibly have known.
When i went just before the wedding, what she told me was astounding. She told me that Mr Tarts dad Colin (she named him) will be there (she knew I was getting wed and what month) watching us and will be so proud. She said that he would like Mr T to wear 2 roses in his buttonhole, one for him too and that he will try his best to help him with his crevat as he knows he will be useless at it.
She said that as my nan had also passed (we never got on), she would like to say sorry for certain views that she had expressed when she was alive - spot on, but would rather not say what went on. My nan and mum were apparantly 'thrashing out' their diferences up there too over buckets of tea as they both drunk gallons when down here.
She said that my sister in America was fine but a little 'snowed under'. My sister was in Boston at the time on holiday with heavy snow and couldnt get a flight back home.
She also knew that my mum had 10 children and I myself had lost a baby when I was 18. She went as far as to say that my mum had my little boy with her.
She said that my mum was beside me brushing my hair - something she loved to do even up until I was 20.
All of a sudden she asked me if I heard that. When I said what, she said that my mum just called me. I just laughed and forgot about it but when I replayed the tape a few months later - as clear as a bell, my mums voice called my nickname. Now, when I play the tape it's gone. I was doing the washing up at the time and just froze with shock.
I can't remember other things but I couldnt believe how accurate this woman was.
I have an appointment with her at the end of April and am actually looking forward to it.
I'm no fool and do not live my life by what this woman has said in the past and she certainly didnt pick on the fact that I was grieving and heard what I wanted to as mum had died years before and I was by no means upset iyswim. I wasnt a member of any facebook or sharing group at the time so ruled out that she had googled me!
I just wondered whether anyone believes in the afterlife and spirit world.
Do you have any stories to tell?

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  • WIseMonkey
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    quote:Originally posted by Boxof BaldKittens
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    My problem lies with someone charging me for making contact with someone they can 'see', who has a message for me.
    id="quote">But people tend to go to the mediums not the other way around. And in that case why would any Medium take up their time talking to a stranger without being offered something for their time?id="red">That's why people ask for a donation or a set amount of money.
    We all know there are frauds about. I'm angry that this happens and people get taken for a ride, but why would someone who does have a real gift not ask for something in return unless it's something they hardly ever do so it's not going to cut into their life/time/day.
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    But it supposed to be a gift and if it can comfort someone who is greiving then why aks for money?
    id="quote">My mum didn't used to ask for anything. As it is a gift as you say, but she used to get anyone and everyone asking for a reading. So to sort out the people wanting to 'experiment' she started asking for a donation.
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    quote:Originally posted by SophieM
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    I've been to a Derren Brown show. Had never heard of him before, went with a bunch of work friends.

    It's incredible how he does it. It's amazing. He even shows you how he does it, to prove he's cold reading and not really 'reading your mind'. ?

    Yet STILL, people believe it's true. ?
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    Me too, he's awesome ? So, so clever.
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    It's truely astounding the amount of information you give away without realising it, isn't it? Gobsmacking in fact ?. And the way he 'suggests' things to you, making you think you made those decisions yourself. ?

    The only bit I couldn't understand was the end bit, where he walks on broken glass. Did he really slow his heart rate right down, or was that an illusion too? [:I] [insert gulliable icon here as neccessary]
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    quote:Originally posted by WIseMonkey
    Yes you can see dead animals BGB [hides under cushion]id="yellow">
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    I saw one once.

    The fox had dug up my grandfathers cat after it was buried in the garden.id="beige">
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    quote:Originally posted by WIseMonkey
    Yes you can see dead animals BGB [hides under cushion]id="yellow">
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    Dinosaurs? That must have scared the living crap out of you!
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    quote:Originally posted by NickJ
    quote:Originally posted by barongreenback
    quote:Originally posted by AnnaBanana
    quote:Originally posted by barongreenback
    The only afterlife we're all set for is one being digested by various micro organisms and if we're lucky, having our guts pecked out by eagles on the top of a mountain.

    The afterlife is indeed to make people more comfortable about death. After all, if we all really believed in it, why are we so scared of death? Human beings would be like lemmings. Funerals would be far happier as well - we might have lost someone but we'll be seeing them in a few years anyway and as an absolute bonus, it's for eternity!

    Accept that this life is the only one you're going to get and live it accordingly.



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    In the interests of a healthy discussion, and this is not personal, how can you possibly say this with such authority? If I believed in spirits/afterlife etc, could I not call you idiotic/naive for believing that this life is it? Just as others are calling those that do believe in spiritual things? This is not a modern belief, what about the egyptians for instance, who lived a life preparing for the afterlife? who can possibly say what is wrong or right?

    for the record, I don't know what I believe, it would certainly help if I did, to get to grips with a recent loss.
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    People seem determined to assign higher meaning to us, just because we're at the top of the food chain. Do mosquitoes have an afterlife? Do dogs? What about gorillas? Are we really that special when essentially what defines our conscious state is a grey mushy organic computer that's wired in a slightly different way?

    I eat food and breathe, which makes my body work and allows little electrical impulses to fly around my brain. I don't find the need to romanticise my mind. It is what it is and I'm going to enjoy having it whilst it still works.
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    <claps>

    any afterlife belief is simply to shield the impact of the finality of death. aptly illustrated by annabanas post re loss and comfort.
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    That's what I said paaaaaaaggggeees ago. Do I not get a clap??
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    quote:Originally posted by Pint&APie
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    Yes you can see dead animals BGB [hides under cushion]id="yellow">
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    I saw one once.

    The fox had dug up my grandfathers cat after it was buried in the garden.id="beige">
    id="quote">I meant dead animal spirts.
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    quote:Originally posted by Ginger
    I understand the need for debate about this subject, and it interests me, but people will believe what they want to believe contrary to others opinions and 'evidence' shown.
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    Disbelief in things despite all the evidence provided used to be called ignorance, and was rightly picked up on.

    When did it become so common to let people believe any old stuff unchallenged ?
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    I believe in heaven but I don't believe in an after 'life'. Like Sophie, I don't believe it's a two way street and there is not crossing back and forth or become someone/thing else. I don't know what I believe heaven is, that has changed as I got older but I would like to think it may be somewhere I can be with those I love again and be free from pain and worries.

    I have to admit the thought of nothingness scares me but that is just me and I can't justify/explain it.

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    quote:Originally posted by WIseMonkey
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    quote:Originally posted by Minx Sauce


    My problem lies with someone charging me for making contact with someone they can 'see', who has a message for me.
    id="quote">But people tend to go to the mediums not the other way around. And in that case why would any Medium take up their time talking to a stranger without being offered something for their time?id="red">That's why people ask for a donation or a set amount of money.
    We all know there are frauds about. I'm angry that this happens and people get taken for a ride, but why would someone who does have a real gift not ask for something in return unless it's something they hardly ever do so it's not going to cut into their life/time/day.
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    But it supposed to be a gift and if it can comfort someone who is greiving then why aks for money?
    id="quote">My mum didn't used to ask for anything. As it is a gift as you say, but she used to get anyone and everyone asking for a reading. So to sort out the people wanting to 'experiment' she started asking for a donation.
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    So what wrong with people wanting to experiment. Surley if she was in touch with the otherside then a reading would have converted them.

    Or was it a case of picking the ones who were more likely to fall for it?

    And even then why charge money?
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    quote:Originally posted by WIseMonkey
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    quote:Originally posted by Minx Sauce


    My problem lies with someone charging me for making contact with someone they can 'see', who has a message for me.
    id="quote">But people tend to go to the mediums not the other way around. And in that case why would any Medium take up their time talking to a stranger without being offered something for their time?id="red">That's why people ask for a donation or a set amount of money.
    We all know there are frauds about. I'm angry that this happens and people get taken for a ride, but why would someone who does have a real gift not ask for something in return unless it's something they hardly ever do so it's not going to cut into their life/time/day.
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    But it supposed to be a gift and if it can comfort someone who is greiving then why aks for money?
    id="quote">My mum didn't used to ask for anything. As it is a gift as you say, but she used to get anyone and everyone asking for a reading. So to sort out the people wanting to 'experiment' she started asking for a donation.
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    I just know this is going to sound flippant, but does her gift/spirit guide etc not allow her to differentiate between the two?
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    quote:Originally posted by WIseMonkey

    My mum didn't used to ask for anything. As it is a gift as you say, but she used to get anyone and everyone asking for a reading. So to sort out the people wanting to 'experiment' she started asking for a donation.
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    Or to put it another way, people who weren't credulous were harder to be cold-read and they were also the people who wouldn't be willing to pay. Charge and you get suckers. Win-win.
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    No minx, because i find your usual responses to be quite passive aggressive when theres a row going on and accordingly, i rarely read your posts ?

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    I believe that when someone dies they don't just dissapear in a poof of smoke, but I need to beleive that,because I have nothing else.
    I believe that what I consider as things done by people who have passed are no doubt coincidences. But it's what I believe, and I always will. It brings me huge comfort and that helps me grieve.
    Whatever someone believes, if it helps them and brings them comfort it really doesn't matter.

    I don't beleive in someone ripping another person off to the right to 'talk' to a loved one, and I do believe that 90% of people out there who claim to have some sort of power are fake.

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    quote:Originally posted by JK
    quote:Originally posted by WIseMonkey
    quote:Originally posted by Boxof BaldKittens
    quote:Originally posted by WIseMonkey
    quote:Originally posted by Minx Sauce


    My problem lies with someone charging me for making contact with someone they can 'see', who has a message for me.
    id="quote">But people tend to go to the mediums not the other way around. And in that case why would any Medium take up their time talking to a stranger without being offered something for their time?id="red">That's why people ask for a donation or a set amount of money.
    We all know there are frauds about. I'm angry that this happens and people get taken for a ride, but why would someone who does have a real gift not ask for something in return unless it's something they hardly ever do so it's not going to cut into their life/time/day.
    id="quote">

    But it supposed to be a gift and if it can comfort someone who is greiving then why aks for money?
    id="quote">My mum didn't used to ask for anything. As it is a gift as you say, but she used to get anyone and everyone asking for a reading. So to sort out the people wanting to 'experiment' she started asking for a donation.
    id="quote">no idea tbh.

    I just know this is going to sound flippant, but does her gift/spirit guide etc not allow her to differentiate between the two?
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    Can I just clarify here...

    I think people are getting somewhat confused. I don't think anyone is saying you can't believe in the afterlife. It can be very comforting to many many people, and helps ease the pain of death.

    What people are having the problem with, is the idea of people 'cold reading' and praying on the vunerable... taking money in return for relaying a message from the dead.

    Please don't get 'believing in the afterlife' confused with 'can the living communicate with the dead'.

    They are two very different topics.

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    quote:Originally posted by Minx Sauce
    Can I just clarify here...

    I think people are getting somewhat confused. I don't think anyone is saying you can't believe in the afterlife. It can be very comforting to many many people, and helps ease the pain of death.

    What people are having the problem with, is the idea of people 'cold reading' and praying on the vunerable... taking money in return for relaying a message from the dead.

    Please don't get 'believing in the afterlife' confused with 'can the living communicate with the dead'.

    They are two very different topics.
    id="quote">

    <claps> (for earlier)?

    And Hear Hear for this post.
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    quote:Originally posted by Mrs Jess
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    that's amazing BOBK, thanks ?
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    [crash] His book is very good too - as well as going into detail about cold reading and similar tricks there's some interesting stuff about mental exercises you can do to say, remember important information. I'm not explaining it very well, but it's an excellent and highly unusual read.
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    Am literally just adding it to my amazon basket actually ?

    I have actually heard of people who believe they have some kind of psychic gift (not nec. actually talking to the dead, just some kind of 6th sense) and don't charge for it in any way because they think it's wrong.
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    Without wanted to start that debate all over again someone my mom and I saw was like this, she didn't charge anyone but was happy to do readings.
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    quote:Originally posted by Boxof BaldKittens
    quote:Originally posted by WIseMonkey
    quote:Originally posted by Boxof BaldKittens
    quote:Originally posted by WIseMonkey
    quote:Originally posted by Minx Sauce


    My problem lies with someone charging me for making contact with someone they can 'see', who has a message for me.
    id="quote">But people tend to go to the mediums not the other way around. And in that case why would any Medium take up their time talking to a stranger without being offered something for their time?id="red">That's why people ask for a donation or a set amount of money.
    We all know there are frauds about. I'm angry that this happens and people get taken for a ride, but why would someone who does have a real gift not ask for something in return unless it's something they hardly ever do so it's not going to cut into their life/time/day.
    id="quote">

    But it supposed to be a gift and if it can comfort someone who is greiving then why aks for money?
    id="quote">My mum didn't used to ask for anything. As it is a gift as you say, but she used to get anyone and everyone asking for a reading. So to sort out the people wanting to 'experiment' she started asking for a donation.
    id="quote">

    So what wrong with people wanting to experiment. Surley if she was in touch with the otherside then a reading would have converted them.

    Or was it a case of picking the ones who were more likely to fall for it?

    And even then why charge money?
    id="quote">so you wouldnt mind if you were experimented on. yeah right.
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    quote:Originally posted by NickJ
    no minx, because i find your usual responses to be quite passive aggressive when theres a row going on and accordingly, i rarely read your posts ?
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    fuck off.


    passive agressive enough for ya? ?
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    quote:Originally posted by Boxof BaldKittens
    quote:Originally posted by Minx Sauce
    Can I just clarify here...

    I think people are getting somewhat confused. I don't think anyone is saying you can't believe in the afterlife. It can be very comforting to many many people, and helps ease the pain of death.

    What people are having the problem with, is the idea of people 'cold reading' and praying on the vunerable... taking money in return for relaying a message from the dead.

    Please don't get 'believing in the afterlife' confused with 'can the living communicate with the dead'.

    They are two very different topics.
    id="quote">

    <claps> (for earlier)?

    And Hear Hear for this post.
    id="quote">


    Why thank you [takes a bow]
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    quote:Originally posted by WIseMonkey
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    quote:Originally posted by Boxof BaldKittens
    quote:Originally posted by WIseMonkey
    quote:Originally posted by Minx Sauce


    My problem lies with someone charging me for making contact with someone they can 'see', who has a message for me.
    id="quote">But people tend to go to the mediums not the other way around. And in that case why would any Medium take up their time talking to a stranger without being offered something for their time?id="red">That's why people ask for a donation or a set amount of money.
    We all know there are frauds about. I'm angry that this happens and people get taken for a ride, but why would someone who does have a real gift not ask for something in return unless it's something they hardly ever do so it's not going to cut into their life/time/day.
    id="quote">

    But it supposed to be a gift and if it can comfort someone who is greiving then why aks for money?
    id="quote">My mum didn't used to ask for anything. As it is a gift as you say, but she used to get anyone and everyone asking for a reading. So to sort out the people wanting to 'experiment' she started asking for a donation.
    id="quote">

    So what wrong with people wanting to experiment. Surley if she was in touch with the otherside then a reading would have converted them.

    Or was it a case of picking the ones who were more likely to fall for it?

    And even then why charge money?
    id="quote">so you wouldnt mind if you were experimented on. yeah right.
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    If I claimed that I could talk to dead people then no I wouldnt. If it were true then I would demonstrate it to whoever asked otherwise there would be no point in already showing people who belived.
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    quote:Originally posted by WIseMonkey
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    quote:Originally posted by Boxof BaldKittens
    quote:Originally posted by WIseMonkey
    quote:Originally posted by Minx Sauce


    My problem lies with someone charging me for making contact with someone they can 'see', who has a message for me.
    id="quote">But people tend to go to the mediums not the other way around. And in that case why would any Medium take up their time talking to a stranger without being offered something for their time?id="red">That's why people ask for a donation or a set amount of money.
    We all know there are frauds about. I'm angry that this happens and people get taken for a ride, but why would someone who does have a real gift not ask for something in return unless it's something they hardly ever do so it's not going to cut into their life/time/day.
    id="quote">

    But it supposed to be a gift and if it can comfort someone who is greiving then why aks for money?
    id="quote">My mum didn't used to ask for anything. As it is a gift as you say, but she used to get anyone and everyone asking for a reading. So to sort out the people wanting to 'experiment' she started asking for a donation.
    id="quote">

    So what wrong with people wanting to experiment. Surley if she was in touch with the otherside then a reading would have converted them.

    Or was it a case of picking the ones who were more likely to fall for it?

    And even then why charge money?
    id="quote">so you wouldnt mind if you were experimented on. yeah right.
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    I would to prove a point <shrug>
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    quote:Originally posted by spacecadet_99
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    quote:Originally posted by WIseMonkey
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    quote:Originally posted by WIseMonkey
    quote:Originally posted by Minx Sauce


    My problem lies with someone charging me for making contact with someone they can 'see', who has a message for me.
    id="quote">But people tend to go to the mediums not the other way around. And in that case why would any Medium take up their time talking to a stranger without being offered something for their time?id="red">That's why people ask for a donation or a set amount of money.
    We all know there are frauds about. I'm angry that this happens and people get taken for a ride, but why would someone who does have a real gift not ask for something in return unless it's something they hardly ever do so it's not going to cut into their life/time/day.
    id="quote">

    But it supposed to be a gift and if it can comfort someone who is greiving then why aks for money?
    id="quote">My mum didn't used to ask for anything. As it is a gift as you say, but she used to get anyone and everyone asking for a reading. So to sort out the people wanting to 'experiment' she started asking for a donation.
    id="quote">

    So what wrong with people wanting to experiment. Surley if she was in touch with the otherside then a reading would have converted them.

    Or was it a case of picking the ones who were more likely to fall for it?

    And even then why charge money?
    id="quote">so you wouldnt mind if you were experimented on. yeah right.
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    I would to prove a point <shrug>
    id="quote">but most dont need to prove they can see.
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    quote:Originally posted by WIseMonkey
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    quote:Originally posted by WIseMonkey
    quote:Originally posted by Minx Sauce


    My problem lies with someone charging me for making contact with someone they can 'see', who has a message for me.
    id="quote">But people tend to go to the mediums not the other way around. And in that case why would any Medium take up their time talking to a stranger without being offered something for their time?id="red">That's why people ask for a donation or a set amount of money.
    We all know there are frauds about. I'm angry that this happens and people get taken for a ride, but why would someone who does have a real gift not ask for something in return unless it's something they hardly ever do so it's not going to cut into their life/time/day.
    id="quote">

    But it supposed to be a gift and if it can comfort someone who is greiving then why aks for money?
    id="quote">My mum didn't used to ask for anything. As it is a gift as you say, but she used to get anyone and everyone asking for a reading. So to sort out the people wanting to 'experiment' she started asking for a donation.
    id="quote">

    So what wrong with people wanting to experiment. Surley if she was in touch with the otherside then a reading would have converted them.

    Or was it a case of picking the ones who were more likely to fall for it?

    And even then why charge money?
    id="quote">so you wouldnt mind if you were experimented on. yeah right.
    id="quote">

    Me, me! I don't mind....anyone can come to me and see if my skills stand up to scrutiny. Oh no, hang on, they do it all the time. It's called audit.
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    quote:Originally posted by WIseMonkey
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    quote:Originally posted by Boxof BaldKittens
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    quote:Originally posted by Boxof BaldKittens
    quote:Originally posted by WIseMonkey
    quote:Originally posted by Minx Sauce


    My problem lies with someone charging me for making contact with someone they can 'see', who has a message for me.
    id="quote">But people tend to go to the mediums not the other way around. And in that case why would any Medium take up their time talking to a stranger without being offered something for their time?id="red">That's why people ask for a donation or a set amount of money.
    We all know there are frauds about. I'm angry that this happens and people get taken for a ride, but why would someone who does have a real gift not ask for something in return unless it's something they hardly ever do so it's not going to cut into their life/time/day.
    id="quote">

    But it supposed to be a gift and if it can comfort someone who is greiving then why aks for money?
    id="quote">My mum didn't used to ask for anything. As it is a gift as you say, but she used to get anyone and everyone asking for a reading. So to sort out the people wanting to 'experiment' she started asking for a donation.
    id="quote">

    So what wrong with people wanting to experiment. Surley if she was in touch with the otherside then a reading would have converted them.

    Or was it a case of picking the ones who were more likely to fall for it?

    And even then why charge money?
    id="quote">so you wouldnt mind if you were experimented on. yeah right.
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    I would to prove a point <shrug>
    id="quote">but most dont need to prove they can see.
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    What? Of course they do or else how do you know they can? Because they said so?
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    My problem lies with someone charging me for making contact with someone they can 'see', who has a message for me.
    id="quote">But people tend to go to the mediums not the other way around. And in that case why would any Medium take up their time talking to a stranger without being offered something for their time?id="red">That's why people ask for a donation or a set amount of money.
    We all know there are frauds about. I'm angry that this happens and people get taken for a ride, but why would someone who does have a real gift not ask for something in return unless it's something they hardly ever do so it's not going to cut into their life/time/day.
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    But it supposed to be a gift and if it can comfort someone who is greiving then why aks for money?
    id="quote">My mum didn't used to ask for anything. As it is a gift as you say, but she used to get anyone and everyone asking for a reading. So to sort out the people wanting to 'experiment' she started asking for a donation.
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    So what wrong with people wanting to experiment. Surley if she was in touch with the otherside then a reading would have converted them.

    Or was it a case of picking the ones who were more likely to fall for it?

    And even then why charge money?
    id="quote">so you wouldnt mind if you were experimented on. yeah right.
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    How is it an experiment though?
    Your mother says/claims she has a gift.
    Someone wants a reading - it doesn't matter if they're sceptical or not. If she really is able to see things then job's a good'un either way.

    If they're sceptical and your mum really can see/know things then they will be converted.
    If not, well it just proves it's a load of twaddle.
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    For some reason the famous story of the then Sun editor Kelvin MacKenzie firing his astrologer has popped into my head.

    His letter began "As you will no doubt have foreseen..."

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    quote:Originally posted by JK

    Me, me! I don't mind....anyone can come to me and see if my skills stand up to scrutiny. Oh no, hang on, they do it all the time. It's called audit.
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    Perhaps we could go over to a system of licences for those that want to charge for the service.

    Simply pop along to your local iniversity, demonstrate your eerie powers, and the government will issue you a permit.

    Seems perfectly reasonable to me, and would certainly weed out a few of these terrible fakes.
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    Do you think anyone could communicate with the spirit of the minge licking dog?

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    quote:Originally posted by Mr JK
    For some reason the famous story of the then Sun editor Kelvin MacKenzie firing his astrologer has popped into my head.

    His letter began "As you will no doubt have foreseen..."

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    quote:Originally posted by Mr JK
    For some reason the famous story of the then Sun editor Kelvin MacKenzie firing his astrologer has popped into my head.

    His letter began "As you will no doubt have foreseen..."

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    ? Would there have been any need for the letter.
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    quote:Originally posted by Mr JK
    For some reason the famous story of the then Sun editor Kelvin MacKenzie firing his astrologer has popped into my head.

    His letter began "As you will no doubt have foreseen..."

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