I know nothing about tattoos, but why isn't it standard practice to draw/stencil the design on the person, photograph it, print out the photo and get them to sign it off before the permanent work is done?
Ah ok well if she was under the influence of alcohol then absolutely he has to accept some responsibility for the situation.
I see what you're saying regarding checking but as far as I'm concerned having the stencil put on is sufficient. And you either go with it/you don't. Sorry to keep harping onto mine again but when he'd put the stencils on my wrist in what I'd thought I wanted it didn't look good so he offered advice. But he was very clear that it could only be construed as advice and he wasn't able to tell me what to do or whether to go ahead. In the event I followed his advice and it looks fantastic.
You have to stencil design on first anyway so you'd think it would be sensible. When I had my tattoo done, I had to sign a form saying I was agreeing to the work and that I didn't have any blood borne infectious diseases or known allergies etc.
My tattooist did take pics but only for his portfolio IIRC
It is standard practice to draw/stencil the design on the person.
I have never signed anything in terms of design for any of my 11 - but I have signed documentation to state I am of sound mind, not under the influence of drugs/alcohol and I have no know blood born diseases.
I do believe it wouldn't be great to do as you suggested. Even though the tattoist has the stencil on you they basically say that if, during tattoing, something goes amiss (e.g. you flich and make the needle slip) you allow them to alter the design to incorporate it. So you could get people signing designs then trying to sue if the final tattoo doesn't look exactly the same.
Any reputable tattoist will have photos of previous works and make you sign the aforementioned form
Snap! I had to sign a form for my second tattoo saying I consented to the work being done having seen the stencil and then the bit about blood related diseases. My first tattoo I didn't sign anything but I think he knew I was under age.
I watched the news story on one of the main Belgian news bulletins. There was no suggestion that she was out drinking whatsoever. It was said that the tattoos were a birthday present from her dad. Also, her dad was with her, he went away for an hour and when he came back, he saw the not so pleasant result.
Also, in regards to the Daily Mail article, she most definitely isn't native French. She has a very strong West Flanders accent and the shop was in Kortrijk which is again in Flanders.
Looks to me like she is lying. Haven't got any tattoos, but everyone I've spoken to who has any, says they hurt like hell. Can't imagine sleeping through that!
Many studios in the UK don't tattoo above the collarline or below the wrist these days... but its not illegal. I do think its down to an individual artist to decide if they are willing to do facial/hand tattooing given the stigma this still carries.
This guy is obviously quite a liberal tattooist and if someone of legal age wants a face tattoo then he is obviously happy to do it....
Going back to the first few posts on this thread, the 'look' of a tattooist is absolutely irrelevant!!! Its about their vision, their expertise, their reputation and how you bond with them that is important. Yes, to the average man on the street, this tattooist is less than conventional, but thats his choice, the same as having stars (be it 1, 3 or 103) tattooed on her face was this girls choice. And now she's realised what an idiot she's been and wants to blame someone.
I would challenge anyone to sleep thru' any tattoo work. And no artist would risk their reputation and license by tattooing someone who was asleep - even less so unconscious. Apart from the fact if she was asleep he'd have to hold her head still, and he can't do that and hold the skin tight whilst tattooin' with the other hand.
I try to channel the pain by taking myself off into a deeper state of consciousness which does mean I sit with my eyes closed and don't hold any conversation, but my artist is constantly checking I am OK, and I'm fairly sure if I didn't reply he'd be making sure I was OK before proceeding.
Furthermore, half way thru' the Sky news clip it clearly shows her PHOTO post-tattoo in the studio photo book (by the looks of it) and I don't think she was held against her will to have THAT taken, so its all utter tosh.
Its immature people like this girl who give those with tattoos a bad reputation... grrr!
I don't hold conversation either. I tend to listen to the music or sing my favourite songs to myself until its over! My bats on my foot - which hurt like hell - took less than one round of MAde of Scars by Stone Sour!
It does bug me when people realise they've cocked up and decide its not their fault. The majority of tattoists are very, very professional
I can't abide chatting whilst I'm having a tatt sesh Hecate! I have to really switch off if there is another client in the room and they are chat chat chat...! I'm lucky my artist also enjoys working in silence so we're a match made in heaven - whereas they other tattooist he works with simply can't shut up!
I've not tried music tbh - might do that for my next session ....
And yes, I agree, the majority of tatt artists are just as professional as the next profession!! It still has a stigma attached to it, but not sure whats worse - the celebrity culture making it 'trendy' to have tattoos, or small minded folk thinking those who choose to express themselves in this particular manner are freaks and weirdos!
I didn't say it was relevant. Indeed I am on his "side". I said he looked repulsive which IMO he does. Doesn't mean he's not a nice guy or a reputable tattoo artist. If he wants to disfigure himself in that way, then it's entirely up to him. I just hope his business stays afloat and he doesn't need to try and get a job in the local MaccyDs. ?
I don't think there is stigma attached to tattoos these days realy, as they're so common. Or maybe having grown up with a dad with tattoos (that he now hates) I've never really thought there was a stigma/stereotype attached. They're not my thing (same for piercings) but although I don't like the look of them I don't negatively judge the type of person they are because of them.
My dad has 2 tattoos on his hands and I know these are the ones he now hates most as they're just impossible to cover up. In all our wedding pics for example he has his hands behind his back so they're not on show.
Having had someone come up to me in a shop not so long ago (an older lady) and say 'I think what you've done to yourself is disgusting' and walk away with a look like she had a moustache made of shyte under her nose has maybe made me a bit sensitive about what some people think about tattoos.... ? I was SO angry!
You say yourself she was an older lady, therefore probably from a generation where tattoos were associated with beer swilling sailors and the like. Still bloody rude mind you.
Whereas today, tattoos (in my opinion anyway) are no big deal. Not my cuppa tea but I have to say I've seen some pretty cool ones. I think programs like Miami / LA / London Ink all help to rid the sailor image of years gone by.
Now.... if only I could choose between Ami James, Chris Nunez or Chris Garver....... ?
What's that? All three together you say? Well, now you come to mention it...... ?
MrsSP - how rude. Someone (one of those bible bashing shouty people in the street) once said to me "you know you're marked by the devil with those tattoos" and, in quite probably the only time I have been quick in my life....., I said "no actually it was some guy in Silsden but I'll check for marks next time"
I am pretty used to people coming up to me and giving me unwanted opinions - I am a mother after all ?
In all seriousness, what a rude moo. I don't like tattoos at all but I'm well aware that just as that is my right it is other people's right to have them or to cover themselves in them if they so wish and I'd never dream of commenting on them. I have to be honest, if I saw someone like the tattoo artist in this thread I might say to my H (out of earshot) "good grief did you see the state of him" but I'd never say it to someone personally as it's just none of my business!
I have to say I am not a fan of piercings either. I was standing behind a guy in the queue in Asda a couple of weeks ago who had the huge big hole/ring things through his earlobe and I honestly thought I was going to be sick. The sight of these big holes just made me feel queasy. I can't fathom why anyone thinks that looks nice but again, his body, his right to do what he likes with it!
I sometimes cringe when out with PILS as FIL will say really loudly "where's me shotgun" when he sees anyone goth or with loads of tattoos. Ironic really when you consider his daughter-in-law.
I think some tattoos are quite possibly the sexiest thing in the world and others are just awful. I'm not a fan of tattoos on breasts but higher up is gorgeous. And tattoo covered rockers are just divine!
I only have the one, 4 stars on my foot, and even though it didn't hurt as much as I thought it would, there was no way I could have slept through it. And, having had stars myself, I know that my tattoo-ist said he wouldn't free hand stars on as they're too easy to mess up.
Oh, and Ami all the way! I think its to do with the whole bad boy thing which completely melts away when he's anywhere near a baby!
Hecate - some guy in Silsden did your tattoos? You local to there then? Sorry i haven't read the whole thread but did you get them done recently at the the place on the bridge where the opticians used to be?
I live not very far away and my parents still live in Silsden.