HRML: Holiday booked but can’t be bothered to go – WWYD?

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Nice..

I like Virtual Tourist. It's a great resource for all sorts of activity anywhere. Gets me excited and the pages are easy to print, so it's a free resource.

Hope you have a great break in Biarritz! Enjoy, rest a lot, eat, drink and relax!

Absolutely and wholly uncalled for. Why resort to name calling?

Lilli, back to the topic. I was in Biarritz last year and it's a fab town that is really nice to wander around. It also has great train links to lots of places which would make exploring easier and would be cheaper than hiring a car. I think you should go for it.

Actually, that's made me really mad. There's something really quite nasty about a man that calls a woman a cunt.

Not that anything will be done about it..

Nick you really make yourself look like a tool sometimes.

I think Lilly's had an unduly hard time on this thread- I got the impression that what she meant was that she'd booked a holiday and was now having second thoughts as to whether it was the right choice, not that she had so many holidays that she couldn't be bothered to go, peel me grape Beulah.

Anyway, to go against general opinion, if you think you'd enjoy going somewhere in the UK more then do it. You should be able to get a bargain by booking late- why not get a cottage somewhere with a log fire and go on lots of long walks then come home and snuggle up? I love Biarritz but, as I recall, it's not the ideal place if you're feeling broke (that maybe because I spent all my time in the casino though ?

While I struggle to see why it should make a difference when said by a man against a woman as opposed to a woman against a woman, I think that it was really out of order for nick to say that to mrs winkle when there were other ways of expressing his disagreement with her tactics or views which didn't amount to a personal attack.

I can understand why you wouldn't want to be bothered, MrSun has been banging on about wanting another sun holiday but I can't be arsed, it's too much work with packing then washing it all when you get back etc. Give me a few days somewhere in the UK and i'd be happy, just as long as it's not at home where you know there'll be jobs to do.

If you don't fancy Biarritz and the £40 isn't much to lose then I agree with KN, have a look for something closer to home.

No, Biarritz

Lili - I booked a last minute mini break to Nice a few years ago in December. I wasn't really expecting much from it tbh, but actually it turned out to be one of the best holidays we've ever had. It was t-shirt and jeans weather, lots of wandering to do and south France is pretty well accessed by train.

The best advice I could give you is to go but not put too much pressure on it or it's doomed. And as I say, it might just surprise you.

Nick - that was the rudest I think I've ever seen you be on here and that's saying something. What with this and you trying your hardest to piss all over the 'kids when?' thread when it turned out to be one of the best threads on here for agggges - you're losing the grip you once had on here.

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Nice Nick, really nice. And of course, entirely justified.

Nick, you are such a charmer. That really was uncalled for, yet again.

Back to Lily, please go! Take a laptop as hand luggage if you want to watch DVDs. 5 days in France, away from the depressing news and with lots of great food to eat and places to see.

I've noticed that too.

What an hypocritical bellend you are, Nick.

Nick PLEASE don't turn this thread into a nasty war of words - Winkle didn't say anything to remotely deserve that outburst...Maybe you need this holiday more than I do?!

Bloody hell - I'm speechless really. You're normally a voice of reason but it's like you're possessed at times lately....

Anyway, thanks everyone - I'm feeling much, much better and even a tiny bit excited and really, really stupid for being such an idiot this morning. I need to snap out of this mood I'm in - life is crap in some respects but I'm bloody lucky in others. I've taken to wallowing and that's so unlike me...Several times already today I've wanted to cry and for no good reason other than the phone rang / someone made a comment that was slightly negative at work / I realised I've got to go out with clients tomorrow night - stupid things that would never normally bother me. I'm just a grump.

I'm going to read back over this properly later (if it doesn't turn too nasty) and do some more research...Car hire isn't looking expensive - £70 for a basic car which is only double what the hotel estimated a taxi to and from the airport would be so not unreasonable.

Mrs M - I thought about that (laptop), not that I'm a weirdo who can't live without TV or DVD's but I doubt we'll have the energy for partying in the evenings and we never seem to have time to watch a film but Ryanair say only 1 piece of luggage each including handbag and laptops etc. I'm wondering how strict that policy is?!

Hyacinth and Janna is agreement shocker ?

Lili, I think I read your original message incorrectly too, I think I understand where you are coming from now but I also understand why some people's flabber was ghasted a bit. Biarritz is gorgeous, according to the people that I know who've gone. I can see all of your points (except for the DVD player, my lovely!) but I think that the idea of making the effort etc. is worse than the reality. You sound really upset and I think that in that case you probably need the holiday - please try not to stress, chuck some stuff in a bag (who cares if you haven't packed 'properly' - I ended up taking a tea towel on my honeymoon as it was so last-minute and I was pulling crumpled clothes off the ironing pile to put in my suitcase!) Just make sure you have all of the essentials and you will be fine. Don't put any pressure on yourself, that's retrograde to the intention of the break - it's you, Mr Lili and hey, maybe a teatowel! What more do you need? You don't have to break the bank in Biarritz, if the hotel and flights are booked it's more than possible to do it on a budget if needs be.

And Nick, I don't understand you these days. That was just beyond the pale and I've seen ruder and ruder assertions and insults creeping into your posts recently but I didn't expect that and I really hope that you make the apology that you know is due.

That's much better Lilli, good to 'hear' you sounding a bit more positive about things, holidays included, you go and have a great time ?

Absolutely PMSL at KJB. Sharp like a knife.
Nick and Wonks, I wish you two would take this disagreement outside – it’s a real shame to have regulars rowing like this, especially when Hitched is going though such a pleasant phase.

I'm not sure it should be taken off board - if he's a twat on here it should be discussed on here.

Soph, no rowing from me. I pointed out that he was being hypocritical based on his recent behaviour (entirely justified, I feel). I did it without swearing or name calling. He insulted me, and I haven't bitten back. If there's a regular who needs to curb their on-board behaviour, I don't think it's me mate.

I'm not a fan of the the way he can belittle people on here, i've felt it myself, but it's not fair if this turns into a witch hunt, makes me feel very uneasy.

Wouldn't turn into anything if he could learn to either bite his tongue, like I'm sure the rest of us do, or apologise when necessary.

I totally agree that Nick's post to Winkle was out of order. Thing is, as I understand it, the sequence of events was this:

Nick made insulting comment to HH

A couple of Hitchers asked him to apologise/explain

He didn't

Hole's stoopidness becomes a bit of a running joke

Wonks and others still feel an aplogy/explanation is on order, and ask Nick for one when they see him on here

Nick doesn't provide said apology/explanation, and gets fed up with being asked

Nick posts this totally out of order response today

Nick buggers off and doesn't respond to to anyone's reaction to it

So whilst I agree that he's out of order, I don't think keeping on aabout it is going to do anything other than disrupt otherwise enjoyable threads. Does that make any sense at all? Basically I just want all my friedns to be friends with each other - I'm such a sap.

In a perfect world Soph ?

Yeah it does make sense mate. There's only one way will all stop though so if he really is fed up with it all he needs to do is man up and say sorry or, at least explain what his problem is/was. I can't stand the hypocrisy of it all.

I've only asked Nick to apologise twice. The thing is Sophie, if he wasn't so rude, or if he even just said sorry - this wouldn't happen, but he doesn't. Why should he not be held accountable for his behaviour towards other people? And why does he then think that he is in a position to tell others how to behave. It's hypocritical, rude and frustrating and I am bored of it.

In a perfect world we wouldn't have been having these rows as he wouldn't have been rude without reason or would have apologised. Then there'd be nothing to keep banging on about.

I feel very much like Sophie in terms of just wishing that people could sometimes swallow things and if not 'get on', then at least co-exist in blissful ignorance of each other, although I do agree with chicken that to continue to ignore/ fail to explain what has happened is only going to exacerbate the whole thing and gi ve rise to presumptions. (Incidentally, I missed the comment against Hole so am maybe not fully up to speed on things- I am only really a P-T hitcher these days, and tbh am feeling better for it on the whole ref. threads like this).