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Super January 2012

Is my friend OTT, or AIBU? - UPDATE

Peaches, 28 August, 2008 at 22:03 Posted on Off Topic Posts 0 18


I met a group of expat ladies from all over the world this time last year, and made a couple of really good friends out of the group.

One of the ladies is American, but is married to a Brit, and has lived in the UK and brought her children up there. So we had the UK in common and she asked to swap numbers.

Since then we've seen each other a few times (separate to the group) and have even gone out as a 4some.

Unfortunately she managed to get herself involved in the Afternoon Tea fiasco back in May and I felt, as a friend, she could have offered more support rather than actually causing more problems, which she did.

Anyway, we moved on from that and things got back to normal, and I forgot about the Tea debacle.

Fast forward to last Friday.

I was upset over all the family stuff over the wedding and needed to get out of the house. I took myself off to have a quiet lunch by myself so I could wallow in my own self-pity and comfort eat (if you can call black-bean soup, a salad and an apple comfort food!). She was there having lunch with another good friend of both of ours, and as soon as I walked in she called me over. She said 'I can't believe it - we were just talking about you and then you walked in right on queue!' We had lunch, had a chat and that was that.

Fast forward again to Tuesday night.

Went to a function and she was there. She admitted to me that when I walked into the restaurant on Friday she was having a rant about me because I'd not been in touch. Other friend was explaining to her that over summer I'd been back to the UK twice, had daughters over for nearly 2 weeks and then friends over for 3. So all in all I was busy! Her actual words were 'I'm cross with you ... ' ?

I thought I'd push aside my surprise (and anger) and not do what Mr P suggested, which was to cull her, and to suggest we go out for coffee or lunch sometime. The only date I have free is the 4th September and I emailed her to tell her this saying something along the lines of 'I'm sorry you were cross, and the reason I've not been in touch is due to .. ' and explained. Which surely I shouldn't have to, but there you go, I did.

The reason I'm wondering if she is being OTT or I'm being unreasonable is that not only has she replied to this email, but she has rung me 3 times today and left messages, all saying the same thing - that she is free that day and that I should return her call and am I free to do something on the 11th etc.

Is it me or is she a bit over the top? I'm feeling a little bit suffocated, but that's perhaps because I've got so much going on in my head and I just can't cope very well with her.

UPDATE

So I had lunch with said friend today.

She really is a bit strange. And such a gossip ? I wonder what she is saying about us behind our backs! ?

I soon realised it was best to just listen as she clearly wanted to get some things off her chest (moans about other friends, her husband, hairdresser etc.) But she asked me a strange question .. out of all the friends I'd made since moving here, how many would I call in the case of an emergency. And then said she would call Mr P if she was in dire straits! She's only met him twice!!!

Culling won't be necessary, but she's going to get a wide berth. Especially after saying she 'could have raised a knife and killed him' when talking about another friend's husband who only gives his wife $25 spending money a week! What's it to do with her?!?!

Anyway, that's the update

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Latest activity by Peaches, 4 September, 2008 at 22:03
  • Canadian Liz
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    She sounds pretty needy to me. You've got a lot going on, and don't need her taking up your time or getting mad when you don't have time to see her.

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  • Peaches
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    Thanks Liz, that's exactly what I was thinking, that she's 'needy' and becoming a bit demanding. One call is fine, even after emailing (although she knows I have an iPhone so get email on the move), but then to call twice more during the day??

    She said on Tuesday that she was telling other friend 'I'm cross with Peaches. I've not heard from her in ages. I'm NOT (almost imagined her stamping her feet at this point) going to ring her anymore - it's time she rang me' !! ?

    Sorry, I shouldn't laugh, but she's in her 40s not in her teens.

    I guess I should ring her back otherwise she'll be hounding me all weekend!

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  • M
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    Apologies if I'm being hugely stereoptypical of Americans... but the 'I'm cross with you' thing - is it just a cultural thing that she's being 'open' about her anger... and it would just be ruder coming from a Brit?

    She has no right being cross though - if she couldn't get hold of you, puzzled or concerned would be more apt.

    What was she like before? If she's generally not too pushy, I'd take the excessive calling as her just showing lots of eagerness to meet up, and just maybe she realises that she needs to make it up for being 'cross' so it's a bit of a hamfisted way to make it up? If she was OK previously (no obviously stalkerish tendencies!) I'd probably just return the call, confirm the date (either one, only both if it suits you) and take it from there.

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  • Peaches
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    She's more Brit than American having lived most of her life in the UK, but you might have a point.

    She is needy though - good word there Liz! Mr P said so from first meeting her. She's bored - especially as her kids are now back at Uni / school.

    She is also a bit of a gossip and stirrer, so I'm erring on not getting too involved as I just don't want/need that. But if I don't call her I'll probably be the one she stirs about!

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  • Tulip O`Hare
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    Sorry, but she sounds like more hassle than she's worth - I mean, what is she, 12?

    I'd cull, but then I have a low tolerance level for high-maintenance friends.

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  • Knownowt
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    Hmmm, it's a bit odd, yes. A charitable explanation would be that she felt bad about having ranted about you and was very pleased to hear from you, hence the multiple attempts to get in touch. Or she might just be a high maintenance friend.

    For me, it's a question of how much you like her. If she's really a friend, I don't see the issue- we all have our foibles and this sounds like hers. If you're not that keen on her (and it doesn't sound as if you are) just play it a bit cool and I imagine the friendship will fizzle out a bit. Some people like low maintenance friendships (I'm like this and it sounds as if you are too), others like to be in each other's pockets and chat three times a day- I don't think it's a question of who's being unreasonable but just of finding your level.

    I don't really like the whole culling thing (although I know it's a Hitched fave). Except in cases of truly unforgiveable behaviour, it always sounds a bit self-centred to me- sort of "I don't do needy people; I don't need that in my life" *head wiggle*. I normally find that things tend to settle out perfectly well without making a song and dance of dropping friends.

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    No idea but I'd love to hear more about the "Afternoon Tea fiasco"? I must have missed that one ?

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  • Peaches
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    Well here I am again .. it's 4.26 and my darling husband woke me at 2.22 on the nose by snorting in my face! Niiiiice. Couldn't go back to sleep so I've made a cup of tea and thought I'd see what you're all up to! And lo and behold here we are talking about my 'mate'!

    Knownowt, you talk a lot of sense. I don't know how to cull a friend - I just can't do it. But this one really is high-maintenance and I just can't be doing with it. I rang her back yesterday and we talked about what we were going to do on the 4th, and then she asked about this event on the 11th which I couldn't go to as I was double booked. She said that the meeting I was going to wasn't on, and that I could go to the other event and we could go together! (she knows the organiser)

    Anyway, very long story short, she insisted I ring the organiser to check if it's on or not and then if not I could take her to the other event. But when I go to this other event, I usually go with someone else and we take turns driving. Seeing as I can go (other meeting cancelled .. still with me?!) it's my turn to drive. And I only have a 2 seater car ?

    I could always swap out with Mr P and take the bigger car, but I actually don't want to. Which makes me mean ... probably?!

    What I could do is remind myself that it's helping the planet not having too many cars travelling (it's about 45 mins away), so that'll be a good way of getting my head round it and taking her. It's just niggled me she assumed I'd go and that I'd take her.

    Afternoon Tea ... oh heck. You really want to know?! It's long and old and probably very boring!!

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  • Peaches
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    PS .. since when was a queue on cue?! ??

    Please excuse my awful use of language in the OP!

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    Sounds to me like she really likes you

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  • Tulip O`Hare
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    Erm - I don't see culling as making a song and dance about anything. I see 'cull' as shorthand for just stopping initiating contact and waiting for it all to drop off? It's not like I'd say to someone "Sorry, you're taking up too much of my time so I'm not going to speak to you any more".

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  • Peaches
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    Aww, that's sweet! Thank you!

    It's funny, but you know something, I didn't really think of that! I just thought she must be bored or lonely or needy (or all 3) because she's been here a long time, so must have a group of core friends. So why take up with me?

    Hmm .. you actually might have a point. Which makes me sad that I didn't even see the bleeding obvious ?

    Now I feel like a beatch

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  • Flowery the Grouch
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    oooooo yes! I want to know too!

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  • Knownowt
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    Sorry, Tulip- my post being under yours made it look as if I was referring to you, and I wasn't at all. To me, "cull" means something more than just cooling off and letting things fizzle out- I always think of it as meaning deliberately ending a friendship, not returning calls etc and maybe even telling the cullee you're doing so.

    Obviously just not initiating contact etc isn't "making a song and dance".

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  • Peaches
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    You're clearly very bored Flowery!

    Mr P is up now so I can go back to bed and sleep in peace! It'll save for another time ??

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  • Peaches
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    Update on OP

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    <Slasher movie sound effect> EEEK-EEEK-EEEK-EEEK!!!

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  • Dooby
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    Crikey Peaches this friend of yours sounds a bit odd and frankly a bit high maintenance! I don't blame you for wanting a bit of space from her, i think i would too!

    Hope you're feeling a bit more like your old self now and that all is okay with the weather and family etc. ?

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  • Peaches
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    EEEK EEEK EEEK is about right!! ?

    Weather is good thanks Dooby. We were very lucky as it could have been far worse, but Gustav didn't come west enough to affect us. Friends of mine have family staying from Louisiana though as power is down pretty much over most of the State. And water purification is down, and stores are shut and ATMs not working (no power). They're saying it's as bad as Katrina as far as the clear-up is concerned. Very rough for those families.

    As for my family, erm ... next!!

    Thanks for asking ?

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