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Lili Donkey
Beginner July 2006

Needed: The Hitched voice of reason…

Lili Donkey, 20 June, 2008 at 15:57 Posted on Off Topic Posts 0 10

One of your colleagues has been off sick, on full pay, for the past 3 years with RSI. They haven’t worked a full day in those 3 years, every couple of months they come back on a very part time basis (a few hours a day x 2 days a week) which lasts for a week, maybe 2, then they are signed off again. They cannot work as their job is very desk based with lots of typing and with their RSI they cannot function in that role. It’s all a bit complicated as the company you work for is very tied up with policy and unions and so on and very soft, and easy to manipulate in these situations – they treat their staff very well in terms of benefits and take the health of their employees very seriously, as such therapy and so on has been offered to this person and they have tried very hard to get them back to work. The can’t force the person to take a non desk job / typing based role as that would be against their policy and open doors for tribunal type action.

The person in question has made it clear to friends and close colleagues (of which you are one) that they don’t enjoy their job and would much rather do something else but can’t afford to take a salary cut.

Whilst being off sick your colleague has been on many holidays and spends their days in the gym, out with friends and so on – a pretty normal life on the whole.

Over the past year the colleague has been telling you about a course they have been taking to re-qualify in another field, and a few weeks ago sent you a link to their new website to launch their business venture. As a part of their new qualification they are writing a thesis and have also completed lots of written and typed coursework (despite not being able to work because they have RSI).

On said website, this colleague goes into lots of detail about how they came to be working in the new field, and that they had to give up their previous career and job some time ago due to injury etc. etc.

So, would you report them to your HR department?

Or would you leave well alone?

I have a tendency to be a hard nose cow with little compassion or empathy and also have a tendency to rush in without thinking (although I’m much better than I was – no Bathroom Gate style incidents in the last 18 months ?).

From where I’m sitting it’s a blatant abuse of the system – they haven’t given up their job, they are still being paid a full (and very good wage) whilst being able to fulfil their ‘dream’ of working in the new field. My opinion is you can’t have your cake and eat it…If they want their job they should be concentrating full time on their recovery, or working with their employer to find a new position more suited to their condition, not using their employer to bank roll a 'cushy' life?

But I’m willing to be ‘educated’ ?

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Latest activity by MarineGirl, 20 June, 2008 at 17:52
  • Sunset21
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    Sorry, I didn't get past the first few lines, 3 years on full pay? Surely they'd have come to some sort of agreement within the first year.

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  • Zebra
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    Yes, I would if I was 100% certain of the facts.

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  • loobyg
    Beginner November 2008
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    I hadn't even read to the end of this post before my brain started shouting 'REPORT THEM!'!!

    I hate my job passionatly and can't afford to retrain but I would never take the p**s out of the company like that! Its on the same level as stealing and fraud in my book!

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  • Sunset21
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    Right, i've read the rest now.

    I'd be tempted to say something to someone, just alert them to the website and let them read of it what they will. If HR decide it's a matter that needs taking further then so beit.

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  • Spring
    Beginner February 2008
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    I don't understand why they are still paying her on full pay after 3 years anyway. The Civil Service are 6 months full pay then 6 months half pay and i thought that was good. There are things in place that can prove these cases, union or not. She should be referred to Occupational health for example and that's just the start. If the company are stupid enough to keep paying her then leave them to it. Don't think it's fair though.

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  • peppermint
    Beginner July 2004
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    I agree with sunset. If you show the website to someone in HR then they can then make an informed decision about how the matter should be dealt with.

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  • C
    Beginner January 2012
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    surely you can't be signed off work by a doctor and then go and get a different job?

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  • NickJ
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    3 YEARS on full pay? my goodness.

    I would send the evidence, website links etc to HR immediately, assuming I was certain of the facts.

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  • Lili Donkey
    Beginner July 2006
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    Hurrah, for once I’m not overreacting…

    Basically (and thankfully) it’s not my employer or colleague but one of H’s. He works for a big blue chip company and their policies quite often leave me speechless. In a nutshell, you can, if you wish, walk all over them and they can’t touch you – it’s fantastic for those who are genuinely ill and in need of support but opens them up to so much abuse.

    It’s the kind of company that has policies covering policies covering policies – and nobody ever really gets to the bottom of any policies as the paperwork trail just keeps going.

    This person has ‘got’ away with it because each time they do come back for a few hours a day, twice a week or so the ‘signed’ off period is reset. So essentially they are only ever off for several months at a time, not 3 years.

    During the 3 years they have been promoted, received bonuses the same as everyone else and so on. Their current line manager is very unhappy but when he raised concern over the person’s ability to perform their job with so few hours and no consistency the person in question reported him to HR for discrimination.

    Zebra, I am 120% sure of my facts – I can’t say too much as you never know who lurks on here and the last thing H wants is to destroy the relationship he has with the person but there is enough ‘evidence’ in the public domain, plus the website, that backs everything up.

    H won’t do anything, simply because if he reports the person it could get very messy, not just in terms of his relationship with X but also in terms of his reputation within the company – it won’t look good to a lot of people…

    Ridiculous – you’d think they would appreciate employees who care about the company and their bottom line, especially considering they announce losses in the billions of dollars every year but nope, it just doesn’t work like that, apparently…

    So I was going to send in a letter to the HR department with all the details, link to the website and so on – or is that really underhand?

    Carolinabena, they haven’t got a different job as such, they have set up their own company. Which raises the question of if they are doing that above board / declaring a second income and so on?!

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  • Missus Jolly
    Beginner October 2004
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    Do you work in the public sector by any chance? I do and my experience says don't bother.

    I whistleblew recently on someone who was blatantly running a business from his desk. Spending literally hours on the work phone talking in African (that matters because it was suspected that he was calling Ghana and it turned out he was), fiddling his flex to the tune of days, surfing online and doing uni work when he wasn't running his business. Basically in 4 years he has done sweet F.A. Management had the cheek to look suprised when I complained despite the fact that they work in the same office. They had to do something in the end as central HR kept querying the huge international bills. He was suspended for three months on full pay, and guess what? yep he's back to work! And who is made to look like the bad person for whistleblowing? That'd be me. They had hard evidence of all of the above but still didn't sack him. I am seetihing, more so because I pick up this lazy fucktards work. I have an exemplary record and am sick of people's low opinions of LA workers because of gits like him. So I'm currently looking for a job in the private sector.

    Sorry if that was a bit VickyPollardish. Can you tell that I am angry?

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  • M
    Beginner November 2007
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    I do tend to think a bit that if policy is policy, and my H may one day rely on the same policy, I wouldn't be pushing it and potentially triggering a change in that policy!

    I am absolutely astounded that this person hasn't been medically dismissed though, 3 years is a long time. And I'm also amazed they've a promotion!

    I think it's important to understand that someone with RSI may not be able to continuously use a computer - but can still use their hands. (I'm assuming it's RSI in that area). For all you know, this person has used voice recognition software, or dictaphone and emenuensis for much of the written work for their course. Or simply has had extensions, and written small amounts at a time with long breaks. Is that a possibility?

    I don't think I'd be concerned about them lying about changing career break - if it makes them look more marketable, that's fine. It doesn't sound like this person is actually in paid employment when they shouldn't be? If they'd already changed career and were creaming two salaries, I'd report immediately!

    My initial reaction was ? - but I do wonder if there's more to it. Not sure I would progress it if I had those doubts - e.g. about the voice recognition software.

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