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Iris
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Splendid names from the beautiful baby competition

Iris, 15 September, 2008 at 21:58

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in my local paper. I must be a terrible name snob as I am wincing at some of these Tia'H-La'Shae, Italee, Dior, Mckayla, Cordi-Leigh, Porsha, Sharntay, Mazee, Dylanjay, Charlierai, Ne'Vaeh, Kaydee-Leah, Shanelle, Meadow (boy), Elleigh-Jai, Aarrysun, Neo, Bryleigh (girl), CJ, K-J,Jaylum, Paigan-Tai,...

In my local paper. I must be a terrible name snob as I am wincing at some of these

Tia'H-La'Shae, Italee, Dior, Mckayla, Cordi-Leigh, Porsha, Sharntay, Mazee, Dylanjay, Charlierai, Ne'Vaeh, Kaydee-Leah, Shanelle, Meadow (boy), Elleigh-Jai, Aarrysun, Neo, Bryleigh (girl), CJ, K-J,Jaylum, Paigan-Tai, two Brooklyns etc etc

I am aware that it makes me sound judgemental and that every parent has the right to name their child as they see fit. But honestly. And as for the number of Mr T style gold chains and ear rings (boys too)...

(does anyone know how you'd say "Tia'H-La'Shae?)

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    loopyloo ·
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    Well to get back to the original post, i thought id share the two most ridiculous ones ive heard. They may well be urban myths but I havent seen them mentioned so here goes.

    Twins called Armani and Versace McLatchey! Surely that has to be a wind up???

    Ive also looked after a baby pochahontas.

    Dont wanna get into the whole class and chav debate, but you do tend to hear the names Chantelle Demeeeee being hollered by a certain tupe of person, although there are exceptions to the rule. Ibe heard a few dodgy pretentious sounding names from people that you wouldnt expect it (from appearances anyway)

    So come on, tell me, is Versace McLatchey an urban myth then?

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    There are a couple of brothers at the local primary school called Axl and Diesel. Surname is Sparks ?

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    mariets ·
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    Round here they're known as "the sausage roll babies" as they're usually sat in their pushchair with a Sayers bag while their mums gossip on their mobiles...

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    Beginner May 2005
    Pint&APie ·
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    Probably. Their is no official mention of the name. The story gets told with 2 different spellings of the surname, implying that this is has spread by word of mouth, and nobody claims to have actually met young Versace (or his mum) - they quote FOAF* origins, most often "a teacher I know told me about . . . "

    *FOAF: Friend of a friend, the usual "source" in any good urban legend.

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    Mwnci ·
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    I've just read an article in a newspaper online about a woman with skin cancer, she has two children. Tyler (ick!) and Lowis (what's wrong with spelling it Lois?!)

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    Hyacinth ·
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    I saw that this morning! I couldn't really understand what her story was about. She had a mole removed a few years ago and was told it was belign and has recently been told she has skin cancer. Now iof they made an error thats very tragic but surely not national newspaper territory? I almost lost sympthathy when she said she wa "afraid to sleep incase she didn't wake up" the whole thing smacked of if "you don't compensate me I'll go to the papers". Must have been a slow news day.

    Those names are just stupid, theres not much else to say is there? I'm stunned at MrKC though, like everyone else I guess.

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    Mwnci ·
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    By the sounds of things the hospital made a mistake when they gave her the all clear but I totally agree with you about it not being national newspaper-worthy. That said the entire article makes me cringe anyway and I can't help but think certain things about what they've said which may be totally inaccurate and unfair of me to think.

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  • DeniseM
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    A mum who used to go to the same toddler group as me had 2 kids called Armani (boy) and Chanel (girl) Whenever she used to screech their names across the hall you could see the majority of people trying not to fall off their chairs laughing.

    This was also in the East Midlands ?

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    Oh noooo Attila................... *Cringe* Yeeeearrs ago I had a holiday romance with a turkish man called Attila ? ?

    I also work with a girl called Princess

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  • geekypants
    Beginner August 2008
    geekypants ·
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    I was friends at uni with a 'princess'.

    However her Mum was a big black Momma, and in those circumstances, its OK in my stupid double-standarded world. In the same way Chantelle and Sharisse are fine by me if they are black.

    The name thing is just a touch of snobbery I reckon (snobbery I too take part in). There are names I like, like Poppy and Leo and Freya, that I'm sure are laughed at by those in other social circles, so I always reckon I'll end up called kids names like Jack and Kate, or something.

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  • Crantock
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    Crantock ·
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    OK, be honest.

    If you saw the name "Ysella" would you think it was made up? Misspelt version if something else? Isabella or something?

    I love my daughter's name, but threads like this make me want to stick a label on her saying "It's not made up, it's an old Cornish name."

    I'm scared I've condemned her to a life of being rejected for interviews based on her CV...

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  • *Kitty*
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    To me it looks like a forgein name........ not sure on the pronunciation.

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    Crantock ·
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    Ee-ZELL-ah.

    I guess some of my Cornish friends would say that it IS foreign ?

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    I think it's a really pretty name and doesn't 'look' made up. Made up/bastardised names seem to have a certain 'quality' to them which Ysella doesn't.

    I have an uncommon Welsh name. Some people struggle with the pronunciation (some just assume I have a speech impediment and correct me) but I also wonder whether they know from my name on my cv whether I'm male or female.

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  • LizBjk
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    Just out of interest P&AP. If some with the first name Kelsey applied for a job, what would your first thought be? Honestly.

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    Thats really pretty. Smiley smile I was saying Yu-sell-aa which in my head which is rather silly!

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    Iris ·
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    Ysella doesn't look made up to me. It looks sort of classical or historical and pretty.

    The closest the baby comp can offer is Izabel.

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  • *Kitty*
    Beginner April 2008
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    That girl from casualty!!

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    Sorry just realised that question was for P&AP...... ?

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    I wouldn't think it was made up, but I read a lot and have read books with characters with similar names - one book had a character called Ysolla - if that's not a real name then I think the author took the name "Ysella" as inspiration and changed it enough to make a new name.

    I think Ysella is a lovely name. Very pretty.

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  • LizBjk
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    That's ok ?. Although I don't watch casualty so have no idea who you mean ? .

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  • DeniseM
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    I think it's a lovely name and I'm not just saying that because you have posted ? It doesn't look like it's made up or misspelt - I didn't know it was Cornish.

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  • Crantock
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    Oh good, so I don't have to change her name just yet then!

    Thanks for reassuring a paranoid loon!

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    Honestly?

    I would think it's a bit pretentious - it smacks of parents trying too hard to be different. If it were combined with a public school history I would have it down as a certain type of middle class stereotype. Although to be fair, if you are both Cornish through and through and it's more common in Cornwall it's different.

    I do worry about what I would call my hypothetical children - there are some names I love but would never use as it would be condemming my children to a life of "how do you spell that?" or "what kind of name is that??" or explaining where their name came from umpteen times.

    I think also that some parents (not you Crantock) are so obsessed with trying to find an "interesting" name whilst dressing it up with some kind of "oh, it's an old family name" or whatever that they forget the poor child has to live with the name.

    But then my name is as common as muck and I still get asked how to spell it?

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    Hasn't someone got a Ptolemy? While I know it's an old name, not a made up one, I still think it's an odd name to call a child.

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  • Crantock
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    What about if only one of us is Cornish? And we don't live there any more? And it's unusual in Cornwall anyway? LOL. Interesting point, though - I did want something unusual, but not odd or different for the sake of it.

    Definitely middle class, definitely not pretentious. But we're probably going to emigrate before Ethan and Ysella get to secondary school age anyway, so the whole class thing won't really be an issue, I don't think.

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    Beginner January 2006
    seraphina ·
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    I have a much better understanding (for want of a better word!) of people who use names from their area or whatever and I have learnt my lesson about that - the number of times I launched into "WHat kind of name is that?" only to be told that actually it's a very old name someplace else and I've had to frantically backpedal! It also helps that since I left home I've been exposed to a much greater international population so have been exposed to a much greater circle of names, IYKWIM.

    Where are you looking to emigrate to? We went on honeymoon to Cornwall, and it was soooo beautiful. If we could get jobs down there I'd be off! ?

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    My first thought would be whether they were male or female.

    Or is this just a polite way of asking if I think "Kelsey" is a bit rough ?

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    Beginner September 2003
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    Ooh, careful! FWIW, I do think Ysella is a lovely name and doesn't seem made up to me when there are other names I would consider similar such as Ellysia (sp), Alicia etc. Okay may not seem similar to you but in my brain they are! Also, Ysella doesn't look odd as it is no different to Yvonne in terms of the Y followed by a consenant.

    However, I did make similar comments to you on the BT thread last week about the proposed names Psyche and Yossarian. After reading that thread, I found an interesting article (can't find it now) about people choosing names that are deemed to be socially higher or will come across that way. It's much better worded, will try to find it.

    I find it interesting that the very same people who said I was out of hand using the word pretentious to describe these 'high-brow' names find it perfectly okay to approach popular culture names with snobbery - or shall we say 'chav' and be done with it? My c'mmunity is the only one who has used that word but can anyone deny that is what everyone is alluding to? Yes, I've added my own contribution but as I've read the rest of this thread it's leaving a bit of a bad taste in my mouth tbh. Particularly the comments about hooped earrings and 'you can tell what area they are from' to name but a few. Tolerance of other cultires, anyone? I don't understand why it's fair game to mock people who are poor / lower social classes for their name choices but apparently names like Yossarian are a wonderful name choice because the root if from classic literature or Psyche, from Greek mythology. FWIW, I don't object to mythological names per se, just the ones that are so rare (was it something like 2 and 4 on electoral roll, respectively?) that they seem made up names.

    I do feel sorry for the children who's first gift from their parents is a ridiculous name - be that Levonelle or Psyche on equal par. As I said on the other threas, it makes me very curious as to why people would choose such an 'out there' name - is it to make a statement about themselves? Is it to let others know what part of town they come from?

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  • LizBjk
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    Female, and yes I suppose. ? Please be honest.

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    It's to be indivichoooaall, innit, Kaz. Like when 15 year olds think wearing DMs make them different ?

    FWIW, I have no class walls when it comes to names, if I think a name is ridiculous I will say so, be it Psyche or Levonelle.

    I have also ranted about the use of the word 'chav' on here before, so I won't do it again. Needless to say I am not a fan..

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    I have a friend with a sister called Kelsey, her family are nice people, a bit working-class-made-good. Its not a massively unusual name, and at least its spelled correctly.

    So, it doesn't really say that much - and no, I'm not just trying to be politic.

    If pressed I'd guess white, 25-35, lower middle class (or whatever the equivalent is these days).

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