Botox etc- have you? Would you?

My mate swears by it for under her arms as you dont sweat or need deodorant , i dont think i could have it done though

I would but Mr K is very anti the anti-ageing procedures! He even pulled a face when I wanted to get a L'Oreal dermabrasion kit.

I would do it in a shot if I thought I was dire need (like this morning!) but Mr K has really strong feelings on them. Its about the only thing he does take a proper stand on, so I have to hope that the potions and lotions do their job!

Yes i would and i probably will in the not too distant future - there are lots of my lines i dont mind - but i have a crease between my eyes - i frown when i concentrate - and i have wanted to get rid of it for ages

i also hate the feathery lines round the mouth that i can just see the start of

i think i will do it when i have lost weight again - cant see the point in making my face pretty at the minute

I've had it done a couple of times- the results are dramatic and definitely take years off. Done properly, you don't look frozen or waxy (in fact, many consultants refuse to do the 'overfrozen' look which is favoured by hollywoodistas). I also pay more to have mine done by a consultant plastic surgeon, who is also a dermatologist. The results wear off gradually after about 4 months, and will have worn off completely after 6, so it's not like a sudden 'waking up one day and looking ten years older' scenario. I've let it go a year between treatments before, partly down to laziness. What compels me to go back is usually discovering a photo from the previous year where i looked fresher and more awake.

As for the ethics of tinkering with nature...... I admit I do struggle a bit. Ideally, I'd like to learn to love the skin I'm in ((c) copyright somebody) but I do suffer from shaky self-esteem which is appearance related and I reckon if it makes me feel better and isn't harmful to me or anyone else, then why not. My best friend (gay man) jokingly fools around trying to surprise me to get me to raise my eyebrows fully, the git, but apart from that nobody seems to notice exactly what I've done- they just say I look well and fresh.

No, I'm afraid I'm in the camp that says growing old is something entirely natural and that frozen faces are not attractive. Given that the rest of me is far from perfect I find it utterly pointless and, if I'm honest, a bit shallow to care about a few creases around my eyes.

I dont think I would for aging face issues, but if I needed something to deal with excessive sweat I think I would have it for that.

No.

Yes, maybe. I know that makes me shallow, but I know plenty of doctors who'd do if for me so I reckon I'd give it a try.

I've not had it done but have asked for a round for my birthday next year. I have a terrible terrible frown line, inbetween my eyebrows. It's getting deeper and deeper so I'm not sure if botox is what I need or some kind of filler, but I hope to have 'it' done soon.

I haven't and never will, as I have a terrible phobia of needles. Would I slap it all over if it were in cream form? Abso-bloody-lutely. ?

No.

I suspect not - LTP's "you can't dress up a turd" comment always comes into my mind when I think about that kind of thing ?

I think that's where my feelings come from. As I'm totally unable to care about putting on make up or doing my hair on a daily basis, why on earth would I bother about my wrinkles? ?

Yes, I would, or alternatively fillers, dependent upon which was the best fit for what I wanted. I've had lip fillers before and was really pleased with it - in fact I should have been having a top-up today, but have regretfully decided that I should really save the cash until after Christmas.

I don't have any ethical problems with it. For me, it's the same as colouring your hair when you go grey. As long as it's a safe procedure, done by someone I trust, and the effects are natural (which I can't always say about my hair colour ?.

Yes I have had it done a few times and like Lou says if done properley you don't look "frozen" .

Its fab and i intend to have it again in the very near future :-)

I am 40 next year but often told I look younger. I wanted to look fresher. So, for the first time, I had Botox earlier this year on my forehead and outer corners of eyes, along with restylane around the contours of my lips-to make them sharper, not fuller. It's almost worn off, so I am going to have a top-up soon.

I was thrilled with the results, and wish I had done it sooner! My H disapproves in that he said I didn't need it and it's an expensive process to maintain. However, he concurred the results were good. I agree with his argument re the ongoing expense, but how I rationalise it is I could pay £50+ for a pot of face cream, crystal clear facials (whilst semi effective) are £75 a pop, so relative to that, Botox twice a year from a skilled, reputable practitioner is actually cost effective and more importantly, it works.

What Lou said. It's fabbity fab, I wish I could afford to have it done again ?

I always used to say no but I'm coming round to it as I get older ?

I've always had good skin but it feels tired and grey and a bit rubbish at the moment - I can think of a good reason why it is that way but there's not much I can do about that for a while so I would consider something to help. It's got to be something painless though - chemical peels might have great results but they look soooo painful. And I'm not entirely convinced that long-term it's a good plan to do that too often.

What Boop said - I can't be bothered to put make up on or do anything with my hair other than brush it so I think I might work on that before I start with the chemicals ? In addition there are several billion things I need to spend my money on before getting to cosmetic things.

I'm surprised at how many Hitchers have done it - not sure why - maybe because I think of it as an older person thing to have done? Although I have heard it's more effective if you start younger.

Microdermabrasion, hazel- a bit scratchy and slightly uncomfortable, but strangely pleasant IYKWIM. I had my first one done last week and my skin is flippin' marvellous after it.

I haven't but I would. Noticed recently that my hairdressers/beauticians have botox clinics fairly regularly so would def consider going there, so convenient.

I am a scoob, but I do like to kid myself

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Hm, must confess i m not a fan of it on women. i find women more attractive as they get older and have a few lines anyway, and the smooth waxy forehead contrasts awfully with a turkey neck and makes me think theyre insecure and try-hard, which i dont find attractive. i just think people should accept the passage of time and get on with it. the most attractive thing about a woman as she ages is confidence (to me anyway)

I would, but only by the same person who does LouM - you are gawjuss ?

I have the same problem with very deep frown lines and because of them I have been having botox for about 2 years. However it wasn't until I found my present doctor that I have been completely happy with the result. My new doctor took before and after shots. He was even blown away with the results. I will be getting filler at some stage too because one of my lines is so deep but of course its all money!!

Also I don't look frozen and noone ever notices even though I'm very open about it. The biggest reason I got it was because I constantly looked angry and that had got me down so much. My confidence is much better now.

I second what Lou says about Microdermabrasion. I had a course of crystal clear facials before my wedding last year, and my skin was frikking luminous! Bio-skin las treatment is also good.

I still think overall, botox/filler is better for results and value for money. I didn't look waxy or startled at all. Just like myself-only smoother and fresher.

Awwww I want to have microdermabrasion now!

I would have Botox if I felt I need it (not just yet).

I haven't and i wouldn't. it's not really my thing.

Thanks everyone- interesting to read everyone's views and experiences. I would seriously consider it if my husband wasn't so anti- he find the whole idea baffling and horrid. Having it done with his knowledge would make him sad, having it done without would be a secret I had to keep from him, never a good thing...

Not sure what it is I really need but I am definitely starting to worry about ageing. I don't have any proper wrinkles and only a few lines but I do look older, as if my skin's lost some of it's plumptiousness. The tone is less even too. Is there anything that would help with that?

At the moment (34 years) I definitely wouldn't have any surgical enhancements as I believe in growing old gracefully so to speak. In fact, I quite like my laughter lines (or crows feet). They only appear when I'm smiling and I don't think they make me look unattractive.

I prefer to enhance my appearance with good natural make up, nice hair and wearing nice clothes. I'm happy to look my age.

I look at my mother who is 60 and despite her wrinkles still looks really great because she looks after herself in the ways I've outlined above.

Does the needs to have flawless tight skin stem from low self esteem? Or the need to look great for another reason?

For me, I don't think it's an esteem issue. I have a healthy sense of self, generally. I am fairly vain though. I don't want to look or be 25 again, but I want the best skin (for my age) I can have. The botox was/is a progression from spending money on all manner of retin A/ anti ageing creams and facials. It won't negate the need/desire for the aforementioned but they will be less necessary.

I wouldn't rule out more invasive procedures when I am older. I won't worry about a turkey neck at 75 but I will at 55-60....if and when that happens, so I will no doubt continue with the prevention route-before splurging on an ultimate cure!

i m with your Husband. people get older, you cant stop it, slow it, change it, it happens. love the skin youre in and all that.

I haven't and wouldn't (only 25 at the mo, though) - the wouldn't is more to do with a fear of medical procedures than anything, though. Have been on so much medication/had so many hospital stays these past eighteen months or so that I am loathe to take paracetamol ?

I am all up for things like microdermabrasion though, when/if I get to the stage I need them. So long as it doesn't involve any kind of injecting/carving, I'm in!

I've had it done once back in June this year, I am 26 but had a terrible frown line in between my eyebrows which was bothering me for a while and I had the oppurtunity to have it done for £80 (my best friends mil owns the clinic) so I decided to do it.

The results didn't kick in for at least a week but I loved it when it took effect. My forehead didn't look frozen at all, I could still move my eyebrows and no one noticed or made any comments apart from I looked well...

You can't have botox on your cheeks only fillers will be used on those areas but my best friend did get some botox on her crows feet which was injected close to her hairline around that area, agan she doesn't look frozen or waxy at all.

I want it done again, but can't even afford the £80 at the moment so will put it off for a while but I have to say it has got me out of my terrible habit of frowning even though it has worn off now so that's a good thing.

Ooooo, I missed this earlier, Thank you darling, you're a bit of a stunna yourself. [snogs] ?