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Fireflies
Beginner June 2013

More (possible!) drama...just another day in my life! WWYOHD? Advice needed..

Fireflies, 21 August, 2012 at 22:45 Posted on Planning 0 22

..Ok so to add to the numerous (petty) dramas I have had with this wedding - my question in a nutshell is would you (or perhaps more accurately, your OH?) be bothered if he was invited on a stag do but not the wedding?

If you want the bigger than a nutshell story then basically OH has only 2 really good friends I would say, who he has been friends with since school. These friends used to play football on Saturday and so ended up part of a larger group of friends but OH did not play, so although he has been included in get togethers etc they are not all "really" his friends - e.g. I have said to him, would he ever call up one of the extended group of friends and ask them to go for a beer on their own as mates and he's said no. We used to see this extended group of friends and their girlfriends quite a lot but tbh the girls were quite cliquey and bitchy and as I hadnt been one of the gfs watching their bfs playing the footie on the weekend I wasn't really included. There is also a bit of history with one of OH's good friend's gf and I used to be really close but basically she turned out to be a real back-stabber so although we havent officially fallen out due to friendship between OH and her bf, and me not wanting to ruin it, I have kind of distanced myself from her on a one-to-one level. And due to her back-stabby-ness I suspect she has somewhat turned at least one of the girls against me.... We have also moved away from where we used to live by about 50mins drive - although we do always go back like every other weekend or so...

So OH has essentially said he wants as many of the lads on his stag do as possible and so is going to invite them all (or let his best men do it for him, more accurately) but I do not want any of the extended friends or obviously their gfs at the wedding. OH is fine with this and seems to think they will be too. He has very little experience of weddings in family/friends and I have kind of suggested that they might be insulted because they might presume they are invited to the wedding when they hear they are invited to the stag. OH's response to this is either (1) so what/no they wont or (2) we can invite them to the evening then maybe -but he does not really care either way.

I do not want the girls of the friends there (the one girl I used to be close with, will of course have to be invited as she is gf of OH's best man but not the others!) and also of the 4 men I am thinking of, 3 of them I have heard in the past (admittedly about 5 years or so ago...) were a bit racist in comments etc (my mother is Guyanese Indian and obviously all her family will be there). I do not really believe this will be an issue as I have never seen anything myself and suspect it is 'laddy talking rubbish' when they were late teens who didn't know better...not to excuse them, but also not to paint them as racist thugs..

I do not even really want them to be invited to the evening do because I just genuinely do not care about seeing any of them! Harsh but true - have not seen any of them for months and never independently get contacted by any of the girls, not does OH get independently contacted by any of the men.

As much as I understand it is OHs stag do and can do what he want/should be able to invite who he wants, I do not want these people at the wedding at all so should they really be invited on the stag? Do men think differently than woman? Incidentally, one of the extended friends got married a while ago when we were living back around them and Oh and I were invited on the stag/hen dos later than everyone else (as I think we had not gotten to know them as much) but I did take this to assume we would be going to the wedding, spent 200GBP plus on the hen etc and then got evening invites... and I thought it was rude, but OH did not so maybe the men will/do think differently?

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Latest activity by karenanne229, 23 August, 2012 at 13:09
  • Fireflies
    Beginner June 2013
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    OHHH and the other thing I meant to add was that one of the extended friends had a birthday night out last weekend with all of the girls and boys invited and we werent invited!! OH even spoke to his 'close' friend (who I'm let down by/upset with because of this) that same day as we were back in the area that day and nothing was said. We then saw pics etc on FB! And then 'close' friend claimed gf of the extended friend (call him 'K') arranged it and wasnt up to him to invite us!! THAT issue with OH's supposed close friend is another issue - but OH did say to close friend after that, how if he wasnt even getting invited out for Ks bday then why should K be asked on the stag, and close friend claimed it was K's gf who planned it all and didnt think we'd come back as we live away from there now (rubbish, but as u can see another reason why I don't want K's gf in particular there).

    Ps Im aware of how childish this all sounds, guess it's the maturity of this group of people and we get sucked into it too!!

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  • Figs
    Beginner June 2012
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    It's your husband-to-be's stag, not yours. Let him invite who he wants! I've been on hen dos when I haven't been invited to the wedding - you only presume that you're invited to the wedding if you get an invitation.

    I do think that you should re-consider inviting them to your evening do though. They are your future husband's friends and it is his wedding too. What would you do if he put a blanket ban on some of your friends?

    And as for all of this "you didn't invite me to that so I'm not going to invite you to this"...seriously?? You're getting married, not starting school.

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  • L
    Beginner May 2013
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    Personally, I think you're over thinking it hun. It's a known fact the men don't think (full stop) so I cant imagine any of them would presume they are going to the wedding just because they got invited to the stag. And even if they do assume that, I doubt many will be offended when they don't get an invite.

    At the end of the day if you don't want them there then you don't have to invite them. There are plenty of reasons to not invite someone to a wedding beyond "I don't like you or your GF" so if they question it just give them some spool about numbers being restricted by the venue or having a budget to maintain etc

    In all honesty, lads just want to be lads. And sounds like your OH is wanting to celebrate his stag in a big way. I say let him and deal with whatever fall out there may be afterwards xx

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  • ~Peanut~
    Beginner December 2012
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    We're having a very small wedding, so the majority of people on OH's stag do will not be invited to the wedding (his choice not to invite them, not mine). I asked OH if they would be offended by that, and he was of the opinion that men just don't think like that, and they're just happy for any excuse to go on a lads' weekend.

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  • W
    Beginner December 2012
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    I only read the nut shell version.

    I have ladies coming to my hen night who aren't coming to the wedding. I don't see any problem in that.

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  • Aurora Borealis
    Beginner June 2013
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    If I was invited to a hen do, I would expect to be invited at least to the evening do of a wedding. However, I think a lot of men get much more excited at the prospect of a stag do than a wedding, so they might well not mind. If your OH thinks they won't mind, then I wouldn't worry.

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  • 3d jewellery
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    When anyone at work has a hen do they invite anyone who want s to go along and there are 168 of them (obviously they don't all turn up Smiley laugh) as usually it's a pub crawl. I don't think it would cross anyone's mind that they might be invited to the wedding.

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  • L
    Beginner September 2012
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    I think blokes think about things like this in a totally different way - my OH has a couple of guys going on his stag that he doesn't want to invite to the wedding, which I did find totally odd, but thats his choice. I really dont think that any bloke is going to be bothered about not attending the wedding. However, if your OH does want them there, you may have to grin and bare it, as someone else as said, it wouldnt be fair for him to put a ban on your friends.

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  • cinnamonfairy
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    As it is brought up on several threads on here, you don't know what people's budgets/numbers are for a wedding. So I think it's perfectly acceptable to be invited on a hen do, and then only be invited to the evening. This is what my friend is doing for hers, as she is having 30 people to her ceremony, then another 100 or so to the evening. I was chuffed I got an evening invite tbh.

    IMO, it's your OH's stag do. If he wants to invite people to it that won't be coming to the wedding then that is down to him. You can just leave it down to him to deal with any comments you might get (though with it being lads, I don't think they'll really care!)

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  • Pinky6
    Beginner June 2012
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    I agree that you are over thinking it. Just because they are invited to the stag, doesn't mean they will expect to be invited to the wedding. To be honest, I doubt they would even mind that they weren't! You have to remember it's your OH's day as well so try take into consideration what he wants too, there were people at our evening reception I have never met/don't like but it really didn't matter as you say a quick hello to them then get on with enjoying your night.

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  • kharv
    Beginner March 2012
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    Boys don't care and, in my experience, take any opportunity to go on a stag do.

    I've been to hen dos where I've only been invited to the evening - didn't think anything of it.

    I also had girls on my hen that were evening guests - they were just excited regardless.

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  • kharv
    Beginner March 2012
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    This is true too - you don't have to spend any time with them. If your H wants to invite them to the evening then that's what he should do.

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  • misslaura
    Beginner September 2012
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    I'm in two minds about this - my initial thought was if you get invited to a stag/hen do then I would expect to get invited to the wedding, but then I think people are right in that guys don't think the same way as girls, and it is likely they wouldn't have even thought about the wedding - more just a lad's weekend boozing/fun etc. And if you don't want them at your wedding don't feel you have to invite them at all! You both have control over that part at least! I wouldn't worry too much about what/if they think anything about not being invited - it's not like you care about them anyway!

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  • Jalapeno
    Beginner October 2012
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    I had a massive discussion in the office about this very thing after a guy was moaning that they'd been invited to a stag but only the evening do of his mates wedding. I'd understand if they weren't invited to the whole wedding but the evening is still a part of it IMO. Most blokes wouldn't care either way and would probably enjoy the stag more.

    Personally, I'd only invite girls that were coming to the wedding (whatever part) but if I only invited girls on my hen that were coming all day, it'd be me, Mum, 2 BM's and my 96yo Nan!

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  • R
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    I think your OH should be able to invite who he wants and I cant see the blokes being bothered, but in not so sure there wont be some bitchy comments from the G.F's, personally im only having invited guests and so is OH but then we are only inviting people we like to the wedding so it was a pretty easy choice, the only exception is OH cousins wife, she has not spoken to us for over a year so although she is invited to the wedding to keep the family waters calm I have refused to invite her to my hen night where as her husband is invited to the stag.

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    I would let your OH invite who he wants to the stag do. He's a bloke so it's natural that he wants a big boozy boys night out, and it sounds like these extended group of friends are mostly invited to make up numbers and because they have a laugh. None of them should assume they are invited to any part of the wedding. He has already said he wouldn't invite them out for a random drink, so why the hell would you invite them to your wedding?!

    People have said to just invite them to the evening and you don't really have to speak to them, but evening numbers usually have a limit too and if you invite a whole extra group of people you may have to increase numbers for the evening food obviously adding to the overall cost, which is daft if you don't even want them there.

    My OH can't stand one of my bestest best boy mates, so guess what, he's not invited! It's his wedding too, so why should I force him to have someone there he can't stand. Your situation isn't quite as bad as that because your OH isn't really good friends with them anyway, they're more acquaintances by the sounds of it, and they obviously don't think enough of you and OH when arranging a party, so they can hardly be offended if they don't get an invite to your wedding.

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  • ESW
    Beginner September 2012
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    To be honest I think men are different and its just a night out and a chance to have a laugh.

    I had people to my hen that weren't invited tot he wedding at all but they understand the number thing, I think you just have to be honest with people.

    But as Pinky6 and Kharv said if your OH does invite them to the evening just say hi. My OH has invitied a couple of work mates and there families to our evening and I have never met them.

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  • snow-woman
    Beginner April 2013
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    I'm going to invite some girls on my hen that I won't be able to invite to the wedding cos of restrictions on numbers - but I will explain that to them up front. My thinking was it was probably more rude to not invite them to 2 events than just 1! I'm hoping they'll understand but if they don't they don't have to come to the hen. At least they can see I've been thinking of them and wanted to include them at some point.

    My OH is also inviting a few on his stag that aren't on the wedding list (if memory serves rightly!).

    I don't think it's rude to invite to stag and not wedding - as long as it's made clear when the invite to the stag is made so they're not disappointed further down the line (of course the difference is we both like the people concerned!)

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  • RachTN25
    Beginner December 2012
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    For my both my Hen night and my OH's stag do we are inviting all of those going to at least the evening do of the wedding. Going to someones hen/stag tends to cost a lot of money now a days and we felt that it wouldn't be nice for people to be part of the build up/excitement of the wedding and then to have no part of it otherwise.

    However like others have said, Men tend to think very differently to us so probably wouldn't think of this in the same way.

    Rach xx

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  • laurafish
    Beginner July 2016
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    I don't have a huge amount of reference so don't have loads of advice, but just my experience.

    I went on a hen night recently and there was at least one woman there who was only invited to the evening. I believe there were also one or two guys on the stag do (same wedding) who also only came to the evening.

    As far as I knew none of them really minded and I think you're right - men are a lot less likely to care.

    Don't worry or think into it too much Smiley smile

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  • Fireflies
    Beginner June 2013
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    Oh I thought I replied to this earlier but the message must not have sent from my phone, damit!!

    Just basically saying thank you for all your replies everyone. I think I'm going to hope for the best of what the majority of people have said, that men are usually different about these things and so the men are less likely to be bothered about not being invited to the wedding and just view it as a p*ss up! Don't really see them often anyway so doubt anything would come of it and could just say the budget/space constraints if anyone had a problem.

    Thank you again for all the support/advice ladies! Smiley smile

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  • Flukey35
    Beginner July 2013
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    Just quickly.

    If you OH did invite them I'm sure you would barely notice them anyway - You be far too busy being the most fantastic person in the room.

    Ooooh or you could spit in their drinks - I'm a Scorpio, I think this way ha ha.

    Good luck.

    x

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  • karenanne229
    Beginner October 2013
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    Hi

    I think let him invite who he want's it's his do. I have been invited to the hen but not the wedding and gone. I'm sure if they think it's out of order they won't go.

    I was invited to one hen but not the wedding, I chose not to go, only because we weren't that close (I was a friend of the friend) and it was costing over £350.00 and it was money I could do without spending if it wasn't for someone I was close with. I wasn't offended and neither was the bride when I declined.

    People can make up their own minds and your H2B will just have to say no room in the evening for them to all come and he couldn't possibly chose between them

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