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Trickers, 15 July, 2011 at 14:54 Posted on Off Topic Posts 0 25

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Latest activity by slightlymad, 18 July, 2011 at 20:24
  • Flowmojo
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    'Society' and 'Pillar Of' come to mind!!

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  • *JLS*
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    I have no words ? ?

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  • 1234ABC
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    .......

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  • ashlil
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    Discuss???

    no words

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  • Panjita
    Beginner May 2011
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    Http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3449681/Worlds-youngest-granny-is-just-23.html

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  • Mellow_Yellow
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    ?

    That is all

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  • Red Baroness
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    Shocking isn't it!

    I doubt I'll have had my first child by 29!

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  • knitting_vixen
    Beginner September 2011
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    What I find most horrific is the comments after the article, especially the one that says that the reason we have so many underage pregnancies is because of s*x education that advises children about safe s*x rather than abstinence. The commenter wrote that the children see the graphic details and want to try it out.

    Most stupid thing I gave ever heard, I had s*x ed when I was 11 and did not have underage s*x!

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  • Panjita
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    I'm 32 next month and still not even a mother yet.

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  • Tray1980
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    Totally agree with KV here - the educating of young people is essential. My son is 9 nearly 10 and he knows where babies come from, he knows how to avoid making babies and he knows that he should wait until he is ready and the other person is ready.

    I was ordered by social services to tell him as we are trying to go through step-parent adoption, and he had to know the truth about his parentage, so we had to explain it. I was happy to do so, and I think that its vital that he knows these kind of things, as contraception is not only the responsibility of the girl.

    If anyone needs/wants to explain the facts of life to their child, I can't recommend this book enough - it really did help http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lets-Talk-About-Where-Babies/dp/1844281736

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  • Tray1980
    Beginner July 2013
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    And just think my mum had the cheeky to complain when she was made a grandmother at 37 ? (I was 20 going on 21 when I had Tom and she was 16 going on 17 when she had me)

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  • ebony_rose
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    ️?️ Just shocking.

    My 7 year old knows this too. (he got grossed out when his "girlfriend" said she wanted babies with him ?)

    He started with the questions when i was pregnant, and refuses to aknowledge which part of my body his baby brother came from ?.

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    Holy sheet! My mum had me at 17. I was bought up with "don't you dare do what I did, I'm not being a granny at 34" ringing in my ears. That changed to "when will I be a granny" in my late 20s ?

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  • cola
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    I don't think these kind of stories are that shocking anymore! I just hope that the baby is cared for and when it grows up, and can break the cycle!

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  • KJX
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    Good point - well made. It used to break my heart at work when the teens told us they were expecting.

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  • slightlymad
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    It doesn't matter how old he is, as long as his gives his daughter the support she needs just like with any other teenage pregnancy.

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  • judeclarke
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    When my son was at primary school one of his classmates became an uncle aged 7. His sister had a baby aged 13, making their mum a granny at 29 (having had her daughter at 15). What worse is that the granny was also pregnant herself - her grand-daughter would be older than the aunt/uncle not yet born.

    Well, it was Chatham...

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  • slightlymad
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    my daughter was an auntie while still in utero and my grandaughter is older than my daughter.......

    I am sorry but the last bit I find hugely offensive. actually I am not sorry, who is it worse for, the grandmother/mother/child/grandchild?

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    My youngest brother and sister were auntie/uncles before they were born as well. I'm not sure what is that shocking/awful about it but I'm one of these chavs that keep hanging about.

    TBH to me having a child young isn't the issue here I think the issue is whether they are willing to actually stand up and care for the child they create. As he says himself he just ran. Thats crap.

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  • judeclarke
    Beginner October 2011
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    I'm sorry if you found that offensive. I have no objection to people having babies if thats whats right for them. I bet your mum was older than 29 when she became a granny though.

    What I was objecting to was the culture where people think it's normal and acceptable to be having babies at the age of 13/14/15 when in fact it is illegal to have sex at that age. And that I, as a taxpayer who took a responsible attitude of getting a job and paying for my own kid (who was planned), am paying for the likes of these irresponsible girls who sponge off the state. And who seem to think that by having more babies the council will give them a bigger house and I have to pay for that too. Not to mention the absent fathers who do a runner or don't pay maintenance because the girls in question put 'father unknown' on the birth certificate.

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    I don't think people do think it is normal to have babies at 13/14/15.

    And I assume that as your comment of it is illegal to have sex under the age of 16, I did believe it was that they were unable to give consent in the eyes of the law aso anyone having sex with an under 16 year old would be seen as havign committed statutory rape. And I assume with the breaking the law comment you break no laws yourself?

    With regards the tax payer statement - I thought that was part of what we pay taxes for, to assist those unable to assist themselves. Or should we say under 16? Abortion for you?

    I think however you base most of your infromation on the Daily Hate line of thought? Everyone but the aspiring classes is in the wrong and should be lambasted for livivng a different lifestyle to you? Who would really go through having a baby to get a council house?

    Absent fathers is another issue to the underage one. Absent fathers is one that annoys me immensely.

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  • slightlymad
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    not by much, and I was a nan at 34.

    I for one did not choose to have children to spend my life claiming benefits, neither did I choose to have more to get a bigger house and yes I was a teen mom.

    How do you know that teenage girls get pregnant for this? have you been round and interviewed every single teenage mum? at 13 I didn't even know anything about a benefits/council house system.

    yes, there will be some that abuse the system but for every one of those there are 20 others that end up putting their child into childcare, going back to college, getting a decent job to pay taxes.

    I am a SAHM so don't pay tax but when I eventually go back to work and pay tax I would quite happily pay my taxes to support the ones that abuse the system just to know that I am also paying for the ones stuck in a huge rut that will every good will in the world they cannot get out of.

    As for absent fathers, it doesn't have much to do with 'father unknown' on the birth certificate but more to do with the fathers themselves not wanting to pay for their own children. Even with fathers names on the certificate, it doesn't mean they are made/choose to pay.

    I am pleased you live in a world where everything is black and white, for others it's not that simple.

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  • judeclarke
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    Again - I used to live in a community where this was common.

    I'm not objecting to stay at home mums, or criticising those who choose to have children young - if thats a deliberate and responsible choice. I object to paying taxes to support scroungers who have no intention of contributing to the system themselves, and see babies as commodity.

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    But whose fault is it? the pregnant teens, the parents, the govenment? maybe the 15 year olds that live near you live with violence or abuse and they think it's the only way out. Maybe the parents advise them to get pregnant. Maybe the teens have self confidence issues where they think they aren't worth anything and think they are ugly and if they get pregnant at least someone (the child) will love them unconditionally.

    There are a whole host of reasons why a teen may get pregnant and it's not that easy to get a council flat these days, there is a terrible shortage of them as well as houses, in todays economic climate it's not that easy to get a mortgage, jobs are few and far between, even working people live in council houses.

    Also it's not that easy to claim benefits anymore, there is now a limit on the childs age where a parent is taken off income support and put onto JSA or whatever the new system calls it.

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