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Anonbride
Expert July 2023 Cornwall

fmil says he shouldn't marry me

Anonbride, 4 of March of 2022 at 11:04 Posted on Etiquette and Advice 1 16

She's just horrid Smiley sad

She's told FH she sees "too many red flags" which are:

-- We don't live in his home town but near my parents. It's unfair how often we see my parents. That's just geography (plus they also dog sit for us regularly), but she's pissed because he's the only one in his entire extended family that doesn't live in their tiny town 3hrs away. The reason we live a couple of towns away from my parents is because it's in the London commuter belt and we need to be there for HIS job (I can work remotely and if I had my way we'd be living down in Cornwall, but I'm here for FH - not the other way round!).

-- He's no longer the person he was before University. FH and I didn't get together until years after we graduated, so he's been different since before me but apparently that's now all my fault. I like the person he is now - so does he.

-- He doesn't keep in touch with his childhood friends - most of these people FH has never even mentioned to me, so that's not my doing either, and they're only coming up now because they aren't on the guest list but she's still friends with their mothers. According to FH, they've either simply grown apart or he's realised they're not very nice people - apart from a handful of school friends, he's significantly closer to his university friends (and therefore more of them have been invited to the wedding).

-- Me and my family are having too much say in the wedding. My parents are actually paying for the majority of it - AND haven't pressured us into doing anything we don't want to. FMIL is contributing nothing. She's refusing to believe any of OUR choices are his choices, and thinks it's all me and my family and he secretly hates it all.

-- His aunts and uncles aren't invited to the wedding. Neither are mine! We're having a small wedding, inviting only people we see/talk to on an individual basis, and the aunts and uncles don't fall into that category.

-- We didn't see her during the height of the COVID pandemic. We actually tried to arrange seeing her on multiple occasions, but she refused to honour any of the restrictions and said it "wasn't worth it" if we couldn't act like everything was normal (this was pre-vaccine, during lockdowns or rule of six/outdoor only for people outside of your household). FH is incredibly morally conscious so didn't want to break any rules, plus my mum is clinically extremely vulnerable so we were very aware of how dangerous the repercussions could be if we weren't safe.

-- Generally she thinks he's 'ditching' his family to start a new life with me.


She doesn't want him to marry me. As a result, I don't want to see her. I think if I do I'll just cry.

However, apart from his dad and partner (who are lovely), the rest of his family insist on doing everything as one massive group. For example, FH is trying desperately to arrange for us to hang out with his sister and her partner so I can get to know her - but she keeps trying to turn it into a big family party, FMIL included. I'm worried I'm just going to alienate his sister before I've even had a chance to get to know her because we don't want to go to a big family party right now. I'm also scared FH is going to wind up losing this side of his family as a result - and it feels like that's my fault because FMIL has made me the enemy.

The wedding's over a year away, but as many of you know FMIL is just being worse and worse, and I'm freaking out that if it keeps going like this then by the time of the wedding I won't want her there - and how awful would that be for FH Smiley sad


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Latest activity by Saphireangel, 9 of March of 2022 at 17:12
  • Anonbride
    Expert July 2023 Cornwall
    Anonbride ·
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    Sorry to post this on here, of my three bridesmaids (aka my best friends), two of them have families in Ukraine so I'm trying not to put anything on them at the moment - which has reduced my normal support group significantly. My parents are my best friends and also know a good chunk of the issues, but I'm scared that if I tell them FMIL doesn't want me to marry her son, they'll be no going back from that from my parents perspective and then it's one big family feud forever more!

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  • Jane
    Dedicated June 2022 Bristol
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    Aww Chloe, poor you. I wanted to post even though I don’t quite have the words. Just remember FH is his own man and he gets to choose how he lives his life - including who he spends it with. I guess some mothers really struggle to let go and you marrying him might appear to her as some sort of confirmation he’s really grown up/is his own man. That doesn’t make her behaviour ok but the fact is, she’s being a nightmare and maybe having some idea why might help you. Try and stay strong and remember what is important - for you and FH. Also, it is not your fault - don’t forget that. I’d talk to FH and explain how you are feeling - try and face this as a team and remember you don’t need to do this alone.
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    Beginner September 2024 Cheshire
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    Hi Chloe,


    I’m in almost exactly the same situation, I could’ve written your post!
    To be honest I’m not sure what to do about it either, but the thing that is getting me through it is reminding myself it’s about them, not about me. They would react similarly regardless of who your FH was choosing to marry. You could be the best person in the world and they would still find a fault! It might feel personal but it really isn’t about you at all, and please try to not let it overshadow this happy time.
    Only a message away if you need anything. Thinking of you x
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  • T
    Rockstar May 2022 Oxfordshire
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    I just wanted to echo what Alexandra has said. It sounds more like your FMIL’s problem is that her son is growing up and away from her. Totally natural, but absolutely heart-wrenching for a parent, even though that’s the natural order of things! It will be hard, but try to think of it objectively - it’s not about you, it’s about FMIL feeling like she’s losing her son. And let’s face it - you’re the number one woman in his life now, not her!
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  • N
    Dedicated May 2022 Somerset
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    I just wanted to echo what others have said that this isn’t about you - this about her and her issues. I’m sure any other woman wouldn’t be “good enough” for him in her eyes. It sounds like he’s very much his own man and she doesn’t like that he isn’t “her little boy” anymore.


    I’m so sorry you’re in this situation, it sounds really awful. The plus side is your fiancé is on your side - I know too many people (always men…) who remain under their mother’s spell and side with her over their partner. I don’t have any advice unfortunately, as I’ve thankfully never been in that situation. Is there any way you (and perhaps also your fiancé) can distance yourself from FMIL for a little while and maybe think about coming back to her in a while when some time has passed? Who knows, maybe she’s going through something you don’t know about at the moment and she might get some perspective in time? I have to say it doesn’t sound like it from your posts I’ve read, but who knows!!
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  • Michelle
    VIP July 2024 Cheshire
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    I agree with what everyone has put thinking of you both x💗
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  • R
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    Sending you a huge hug, you poor girl.

    Now take a huge breath and let go of that stress.

    Remember: YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S BEHAVIOUR.

    Write that in large letters all over the house if you need to, but make sure you take it in and believe it.

    Your fiance is going to have to work out for himself how much contact he has with his family, based on what he can cope with emotionally. If he needs to see less of his sister because she refuses to meet up without including their mother, that is NOT his fault and that is NOT your fault - it is his sister's fault. (And indirectly, his mother's, because if his mother were a nice, normal person, neither of you would have an issue about seeing her.)

    Remember, people who get to know YOU are going to make their judgements on what you are like, not what your MIL says about you. And people who don't know you...their opinion doesn't need to bother you.

    And offload here as much as you need to. I find it ironic that your MIL is branding you as this selfish monster and yet you are coming here for support because you don't want to burden your friends who have Ukrainian family - it's the mark of a true friend to put other people's needs above your own. Your Ukrainian friends are lucky to have such a caring person in their lives during this horrible time. And your fiance is lucky to have someone who is so supportive of his family problems. Cherish the family & friends you have, who value you for who you are, and don't let MIL steal your joy.

    And remember - YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S BEHAVIOUR.

    Now have a nice mug of tea or glass of wine or bar of chocolate or whatever your go-to stress reliever is, and chill xxx

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  • xkimx007
    Beginner October 2022 South Yorkshire
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    Hi Chloe,

    This is awful to hear. I'm so sorry this is happening and marring what should be such a happy time.

    I do you think you are probably right that if you tell your family about the full extent of your FMIL's behaviour there won't be any coming back so feel free to rant to all of us as much as you need.

    As others have said, this is not a reflection on you, she is just an incredibly selfish woman. I also feel really sorry for your FH, he must be so ashamed of her behaviour.

    You say that you are scared about your FH losing his side of the family but if that happens, that will absolutely be their fault, not yours. Again, so sad for your FH. I think you both just need to be there for each other and be honest with each other. He understands how she is making you feel and supporting you which is absolutely amazing. And just let him know that you will equally support him and take his steer when it comes to how much he wants to see them. You aren't asking him to make any ultimatums here. You are clearly a very reasonable person in a very unreasonable situation.

    Keep smiling and I also hope your friends' families are keeping safe x

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  • Anonbride
    Expert July 2023 Cornwall
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    Just returned to this after the weekend and - WOW! You're all so incredibly kind, thank you so much! Some of these messages made me well up! Thank you all for being so incredibly lovely and supportive, I appreciate it so so much Smiley heart

    FH has sent FMIL a long email, firm and calling her out on her behaviour but level headed and polite, so the best possible way he could have approached this I think. Now we wait and see how she reacts...

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  • Rebecca
    Beginner May 2022 Pembrokeshire
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    Sounds awful ☹️ Perhaps speak to your partner and ask him to talk to his mother about the points you’ve raised above and why they aren’t valid.
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    It sounds like your FH is one awesome guy to be handling this so well - so glad you have someone who will stand up for you and not just give in to his mother to keep the peace. I hope FMIL reacts as well as possible to what sounds like an incredibly sensible way of dealing with this.

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  • Anonbride
    Expert July 2023 Cornwall
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    Thank you! It was an okay-ish response, some nice things, some little digs at me and my mum, no apologies. Overall it did make me cross. FH definitely finds it hard to stand up to her, and did ask if I'd be willing to take the high road and ignore the digs. It might be pedantic of me... but I've said that if we're getting married then that means he's got to have my back and protect me from anything upsetting that's upsetting me (and vice versa ofc), so I need to know he won't stand for his mother being rude towards me, and that she needs to know that from now so we don't set a precedent for the rest of our lives. He's accepted that that is what he needs to do, as much as it will string out this horrible phase with his mother, so Email 2 is in progress...

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    Beginner September 2024 Cheshire
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    Good for you! Well done for standing your ground, it can be so difficult. It’s good to hear he’s got your back as well 💗
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  • Anonbride
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    Thank you! Smiley heart

    It's such a scary thing to do but I keep reminding myself that if I and we don't then I'm just setting myself up to feel like this for the rest of my life (or, the rest of FMIL's!)

    How are things going with you and your FMIL?

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  • Charlotte
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    You are absolutly right to stand your ground now, no one has the right to speak about anyone like she does, and I cannot imagine the emotions for your FH but this has to be stopped now. You are setting the tone for the rest of your married life together and allowing her behaviour to be accepted and it will only escalate when you have kids etc. Your FH is in an extremly difficult place but he also deserves recognition for dealing with this as many men wouldnt, so huge pat on the back to him for having your back. Sending you all the love and fingers crossed for you. I would say that you do need to get to a point where the emails are final, the more you engage with a narcasit (which i think she is) the more she thrives on it, she knows he keeps replying so she still has the control. I hope you can resolve it without him having to walk away from his family but he needs to be prepared that is what he may have to do, even if it is for the short term XX

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  • Saphireangel
    Savvy June 2022 South East London
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    I'm so sorry to hear what you're going through! Your FMIL sounds like a really difficult person, unfortunately I don't have much advice on this; other than to be strong and know YOU are not responsible for her opinions and her behaviour. Parent-child relationships are always so difficult to navigate, but I'm glad your fiance is supporting you and standing up for you. Your fiance being more distant with his family is also NOT YOUR FAULT. He's an adult and he's capable of making his own decisions with his family. We can encourage our other halves to communicate more with their family, but ultimately, he's responsible for that himself. "We can bring the donkey to the well, but we can't force the donkey to drink" so to speak.

    Looks like you might have to put up some boundaries for after the wedding, but know that this is due to her actions and not yours. I do hope you'll find strength to navigate this difficult personal relationships both in the present and for the future.

    I'm also having to not lean too heavily on my bridesmaids, as 2 of them are going through some health issues and are busy with work, and my MOH has 1 baby and 1 toddler to care for. But maybe you can lean on other friends for support too. Or the community here.

    DM me if you want a listening ear.

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