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NewYearRose
Beginner December 2012

I overhead two women at work bitching about me earlier...

NewYearRose, 2 March, 2012 at 13:34

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... and I'm really quite hurt by it. One of the women is an administrator ("Jane"), the other is a junior buyer ("Anne"), and they both started at the same time so are quite pally. Anne is 32, so seven years older than me, but she has only been working in buying for 18 months. I started at 21, after...

... and I'm really quite hurt by it.

One of the women is an administrator ("Jane"), the other is a junior buyer ("Anne"), and they both started at the same time so are quite pally.

Anne is 32, so seven years older than me, but she has only been working in buying for 18 months. I started at 21, after I graduated, so this is my fourth year.

In February, I was promoted to assistant buyer, as a colleague left and it's this they were first bitching about. Basically, they seem to think that as Jane is older than me, she should have been promoted, despite having less experience than me.

However, they proceeded to get really personal, and mocked the way I talk ("plum in mouth syndrome"), the way I look ("she's rather horsey isn't she?") and on Jack they said, "he must only be marrying her because her family has a bit of money."

At the time, another colleague (my line manager) had left the office for something, so it was only them and me in the office. They clearly forgot I was there, as I'm not normally in on Fridays, but due to staff holiday they asked me to go in this morning to help get an important job done. As I was sat at my desk, they couldn't see me, because the office is L-shaped and I'm sat round the corner in the smaller area of the room.

When my manager came back, she thanked me for coming in and helping her this morning, and said I could go now. When Jane and Anne realised I was there, I heard Anne mutter, "oh crap."

Anyway, my reason for posting, is I just wonder if anyone has experienced anything similar? Or if anyone has any advice on how to handle this?

So many questions are running through my mind, such as, 'what do I say if they say anything to me on Monday', 'if they don't say anything, should I say something to them' and 'could (should) I report them for it?'.

Any words of advice most welcome. Be as brutally honest as you want.

Thanks.

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  • Blonde Viki
    Beginner July 2012
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    It's definitely worth noting it with someone senior now, even on an informal basis, simply because if (and I'm not saying it will) it were to happen again or something else was to be said, there will already be a record of this. It's much harder to refer back to it later if you didn't mention it at the time.

    I'm sorry that it happened though and hope you aren't feeling bad any more, it's a sad fact of life that there are plenty of people out there who'd rather talk about others than to them!

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  • *Mini*
    Beginner January 2012
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    I dont think its worht bringing it up- as hurtful as what they have said is they are expressing opinions and I doubt that your boss would be able to take action from it.

    I would actually be REALLY nice to them when you next see them, they obviously know you overheard them so they are probably expecting some sort of retribution and will be on edge all weekend and into next week. I would waltz in Monday morning with a huge smile on your face and say "morning ladies how are you? glad to see you are looking gorgeous today- did you notice my new handbag- my uber rich fiance bought it for me, arnt I so lucky?!"** and swan off with a spring in your step.

    Misrable old biatchs.

    **of course you will adapt this so it sounds like something you would say!

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  • jen_84
    Beginner August 2012
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    I'd be up for making them squirm in the way that Mini describes. They won't know what has hit them and will be constantly worrying about what you might have possibly got up your sleeve as future revenge. But don't let them worry you - as others have said, they are purely jealous and have obviously have nothing interesting going on in their lives. Just be happy that you are obviously well spoken, have a lovely fiance, and are good at your job. Screw them!

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  • NewYearRose
    Beginner December 2012
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    I told Jack about it when he came in, and he was of course angry, but he actually suggested I do as well.

    He said that by being really nice to them on Monday morning, will take them completely by surprise, and in his words, "will probably make them feel even worse."

    I'm feel much better about it now though, I think sharing it on here definitely helped, and talking to Jack did too of course.

    NB: I appreciate they were expressing opinions, and if they don't like me, then I can't change that. However, our work code of conduct is clear, that any kind of personal attack (whether directly to the person or behind their back) is against company policy, if it takes place on company premises. (Basically it's a way of saying, "if you want to *** about anyone you work with, do it in your own time). This meets the company definition of a personal attack. As such, I will ask my manager to note it, just in case it escalates in the future (which I'm obviously hoping isn't the case, I'd just like to move on from it). I don't want her to take it further though, which she can't do unless I ask her to, which I won't.

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  • *Mini*
    Beginner January 2012
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    ah well in that case I would keep it up your sleeve untill you may well need it later on- make them squirm when you next see them, nice as pie and they wont know what to do next.

    mwahahahahahahaha ?

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  • Mellow_Yellow
    Beginner May 2012
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    Totally agree with this, but also note it informally with your manager just in case of future issues...

    Big hugs, xxx

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  • celticgoddess
    Beginner March 2012
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    What a pair of sad pathetic wee women. Theyre obviously lacking in their lives so they resort to bitching about you. Im with Trickers, I couldnt possibly sit and listen to anyone slag me off like that, Id be right over in their faces confronting them. Im known for my temper so Id let loose!

    Fannies!

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    How are you today NYR? I hope their jealous bitching hasn't ruined your weekend. It's not nice for anyone to hear unkind words said about them xx

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  • NewYearRose
    Beginner December 2012
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    I'm fine thank you Rachel.

    Nothing that a good night's sleep can't solve.

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  • Rizzo
    Beginner July 2011
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    I would go over to them next time you're at work and speak to them in a common voice and ask if that voice is better than your normal 'plummy' one.

    I would have confronted them there and then though.

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    Glad to hear it! I also like Mooeys suggestion ?

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  • Nubbin
    Beginner January 2012
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    I'm really sorry this happened to you.

    I wouldn't be really nice to them, in order to make them feel worse. I'd just ignore the cows, be polite but non-engaging should you need to deal with them in work. Life is too short to point score with bitter dickheads. Cut them out of your life and keep on your clearly upward trajectory!

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  • Storky
    Beginner May 2011
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    Anyone else noticed the swear filter seems to be off?

    *whistles innocently*

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  • HatTrick
    Beginner September 2010
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    Testing...

    *** *** *** wanker

    ETA Not quite Cricks...

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  • NewYearRose
    Beginner December 2012
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    They were both in when I got there, and when I walked in the office, Anne started to scratch the back of her neck. She does that when she's stressed/nervous/anxious.

    I just did what I do every Monday morning, and smile sweetly at everyone, and said "morning all, hope everyone had a good weekend."

    After I'd been sitting down for about ten minutes, Jane (the clerical/admin officer) came up to my desk, to hand over some work she had been asked to do and then pass to me. As she did so, she said, "I really love that top you're wearing today Rose, it really suits you."

    It was so blatantly obvious what she was doing, she has never paid me such a compliment before, and I wanted to laugh but I couldn't. So I just nodded and thanked her, but inside I was laughing away.

    Anyway, aside from that, my manager now knows. I drafted an e-mail to her at home yesterday, e-mailed it to my work e-mail, and then forwarded it to her this morning. She replied asking me to pop in and speak to her, which I have since done.

    She said she's glad I told her, that I did the right thing doing so, and asked if I was sure I didn't want her to have an unofficial word with them. I said I was sure, I don't want them to add 'grass' to their list of ammunition, so she said she'll just file my e-mail in case it's ever needed in the future.

    One other thing my manager said, is that now I've been promoted to assistant buyer, coupled with the fact I'm working towards my MBA, she is planning for me to line manage either a trainee or junior buyer at some point (once I've settled into my new role). She said, "I will take Anne off the list of people I am considering for you to line manager, I don't think that would be appropriate after this."

    Now I'm really glad I told her!

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  • Red Baroness
    Beginner July 2012
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    You reap what you sow. Her behaviour hasn't (and won't in the future) done her any favours.

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  • Panjita
    Beginner May 2011
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    What a knobber, I would have laughed in her face!!

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  • HatTrick
    Beginner September 2010
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    What Red Barry said ^^^

    What goes around comes around and all that. Glad you're feeling better about it all now NYR. ?

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  • JennyH10
    Beginner May 2013
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    They sound like utter bitches but Rose I am very impressed at your restraint. You handled it brilliantly and it looks like your career is looking up and theirs may well be on hold for a while now!

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  • NewYearRose
    Beginner December 2012
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    Just want to say once again, thank you to you all for your support/advice, it really did help.

    I was so upset at first, which I think most people would be right afterwards, but as the weekend went on I felt much better.

    I don't expect to be pally with everyone I meet, especially those I work with, and I know not everyone will like me and I'm fine with that. In fact I've always had a good idea that both of these colleagues aren't my biggest fans. The initial upset/shock was about how personal they made it.

    I will, of course, continue to be professional and courteous to them at all times in the office. I've worked too hard to get where I am now, to let this incident knock me off course, and allow it to impact on my conduct in the office.

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  • Saisi
    Beginner June 2011
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    Good for you, Rose. I'm glad this has been sorted for you now. Was thinking about you this morning and hoping it would all go okay.

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  • Blonde Viki
    Beginner July 2012
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    Really well handled NYR Smiley smile I hope this is the last of your trouble with them!

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  • Natalie2011
    Beginner September 2012
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    I have had this NYR and its horrible. Its jealousy, plain and simple!

    I was in a similar situation, I was a recruitment consultant and was head hunted in to set up a team of which were 2 lads and a girl...

    I am overweight and 1 of the lads and the girl were being really vile about it. I found out because one of them had accidently printed out the email conversation and I picked it up off the printer.

    I contemplated doing nothing, not wanting to lowere myself to their standards but in the end I copied the mail and sent them noth a note asking to meet me in one of the meeting rooms. I gave them both a copy of the mail and simply said..... "so on this matter I wnated to hear exactly what you thought since the emails were so none descript..... tell me, what part EXACTLY of my ""f*cking fat ass and double chin"" had to do with either of you...... please speak slowly, i am taking notes...." with that they both looked at the email, their jaws dropped and the girl cried!

    at that point I said "clearly you need time to think about it as your verbal descriptions are not as forthcoming as the written, so please, take your time and let me know....."

    With that i walked out of the room, leaving them both behind. I then all the info to my manager and told him it was merely FYI as i had raised it myself with the individuals concerned.... and had copied them in

    they both wrote me emails with apologies and the girl left about a week later! the boy couldnt look at me straight and he made numerous attempts to be friends. I just kept it professional.

    I felt totally liberated once I bought it up. As long as you are not screaming and shouting.... besides, they are likely to be mortified when you mention it anyway,,,,i'd want them to know for sure i'd heard.... but thats just me!

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    Love it!! Exactly what I would have done!

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  • Natalie2011
    Beginner September 2012
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    Lol! i hate nasty people and couldnt let it lie Smiley smile

    felt sooooooooo liberated after Smiley smile

    my spelling in that excerpt is ruddy awful!

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