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Rhys Jones's killer's mum facing prison

Mr JK, 16 February, 2009 at 14:03 Posted on Off Topic Posts 0 11

Eleven-year-old Rhys Jones's killer's mum has been found guilty of perverting the course of justice, and is almost certainly facing a custodial sentence.

Which is fair enough - it's a completely open-and-shut case, she's guilty as hell, and prison is necessary as a powerful disincentive...

...but I'm fascinated by the psychology behind it. At some point during the investigation, even if she didn't know all along, she must have realised with total and absolute certainty that her son did it. And I suspect she'd also have been warned upfront about the penalties for perjury - certainly, when I did jury service and a defence witness told a story that blatantly didn't fit the established facts, the prosecuting counsel brought up the subject. (Come to think of it, he was the defendant's dad).

So how on earth do you process something like this, given that you're quite literally damned if you do and damned if you don't? (i.e. "doing the right thing" means your son being banged up for murder, as well as the threat of possible reprisals from his associates).

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Latest activity by kierenthecommunity, 16 February, 2009 at 16:00
  • SophieM
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    I think for someone like that, there's a pretty deeply held belief that one "gets away with it", and that shopping somebody, presumably especially your own child, is so deeply wrong that I doubt she would have had to do a lot of soul-searching before deciding to stay schtum.

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  • HeidiHole
    Beginner October 2003
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    It must be one of the hardest things a mother ever has to do, but, there is no doubt in my mind that had my son committed a murder I would turn him in. It wouldn't be easy by any stretch of the imagination, but I'd do it.

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  • barongreenback
    Beginner September 2004
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    I suspect that a large part of it is the 'don't grass' mentality, plus the complicating factor that many parents wouldn't consider condemning their child to a lengthy stretch in prison.

    What strikes me about this case is the utter idiocy of the woman trying to claim for the bike under her insurance policy. I'm pleased that she's being taken out of circulation for a while and I very much hope that the judge makes it a very long custodial sentence.

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    Beginner July 2003
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    WSS

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  • Knownowt
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    I don't think I would.

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    Hickory ·
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    I don't think I would either. ( I don't have a child yet but I don't think I could turn in my little brother either, for example)

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  • R-A
    Beginner July 2008
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    Really?

    For something like downloading illegal MP3s/shoplifting etc I wouldn't, but murdering a child? No doubt in my mind.

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  • HeidiHole
    Beginner October 2003
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    Really? Would you lie to cover for them?

    I just think, for me, to know my son (or daughter) had murdered someone in cold blood and not do something about it would eat away at me more than turning him into the police would. Although of course I would rather do neither. I would torture myself with how the victims family would be coping, I know what I'm like and it would send me insane.

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  • Knownowt
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    I understand exactly what you mean and of course you're right. But I think it would probably send me insane either way. If I'm honest, I would do pretty much anything to stop my child serving a life sentence, including go to prison for life myself. I'm not claiming that this would be the right thing to do, but it's my best guess at what I would do.

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  • HeidiHole
    Beginner October 2003
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    I totally understand, neither situation is one I ever want to find myself in <obv>.

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  • Flaming Nora
    Beginner May 2003
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    Its certainly a difficult one but I'd like to think I absolutely would turn my son in if he had committed such a heinous crime.

    What strikes me as the oddest part of all this is how any son could put his own mother at that sort of risk anyway. Sean Mercer is clearly not one the most rational people in the world but he can't even do the right thing to protect his own mother.

    I'm confused by the bike and her claiming on insurance? Why would you claim for a bike that you are trying to pretend never existed?

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  • kierenthecommunity
    Beginner May 2005
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    because like a fair proportion of criminals she's a bit stoooopid? and didn't think she would be found out?

    that's the only explanation i can think of tbh.

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