Do you have a dress code/uniform for work?

It's for parties AJ - it's not like I send her to school with hooker make up! She wants to wear the make up to the parties, as do the other girls.

My mother doesn't wear make up and never encouraged me to, but I still wear it and have done since I was about 12.

They are not exactly right behind me either, I was getting at the fact that people change.

Same here, but people do change as time goes on, depending on your situation. I know I have changed a lot over the last 5 years, for example. I am a lot more confident, for example.

Part of that confidence that OH gives me makes me want to look my best for him, btw. I never saw the point before.

To the op, when I was working I never had a uniform and it was always smart-casual wear in the office unless the big boss was coming in (we always had a few days warning).. then we were proper office attire.. smart clothes, etc.

To AJ, I hope that should your W2B ever decide she would like to try something that might enhance her features, like tweezing or waxing or a few highlights in her hair, or some light make-up, I hope that you don't make a mockery of her and just respect and love her despite her choices being against your views. In my opinion, doing these things just makes a woman feel more womanly and pampered. It has nothing to do with attracting the opposite sex in most cases. Women naturally preen themselves and their children. It's all a part of nature. Just as the man naturally feels the need to provide for his family. Preening, believe it or not, is not something that the cosmetics industry just magicked out of thin-air. Women have been doing it for years.. and in cases during times where make-up could not be purchased, make-up was made from natural products.

She's perfect in my eyes already. You can't improve that.

But what about her eyes, what if she wants to try something new.

Never say never.

You're utterly missing the point. It's not about improving herself at all, never mind in your eyes. I put make-up on because I enjoy it. I never used to enjoy getting dressed up and girlified. Jeans, jumpers and trainers were my wardrobe. One day, a friend dragged me out shopping and convinced me to try on some heels. I felt FANTASTIC and since then have really enjoyed indulging my girly side. It's a personal, private thing. H doesn't get it, doesn't care if I wear make-up and I think he prefers it when I don't, but my girly frilly side is all for ME.

It's not out of the realm of possibility that one day your b2b may have a sudden uncharacteristic urge and may well find that she too really likes it. IF that happened, would you support her new interest, or would you be as judgmental about it as you are towards the women on this website?

You're not understanding me. It's now about how you view her, or what your opinion is on it. It is her body, her face, and that is fine if you feel she if perfect. I'm very glad that you feel that way and there should be more men who feel this way about their partners. However, she may one day decide she might want to do something, something small, to enhance her features. Wear some blusher. Tweeze her eyebrows. Maybe even just put on a bit of powder to even out her skin tone. I hope that you wont begrudge her a little pampering if that's what she wanted to do.

I find this a ridiculous remark. No one is perfect, I love my man and find him incredibly attractive, but he is not perfect and nor am I. I look better with mascara and blusher on, FACT.

Nothing judgemental at all. I'm stating my opinon on theoretical situations.

I think you'll find that it's because I'm about the only guy around here who isn't a HiB my views get picked on. I'm sure if there were plenty more guys round here you would find that my opinions weren't quite as unique as some of you think they are.

? Well done, I thought it'd be much quicker that you'd trot out the old "you're picking on me" line.

Actually I pick apart your views because they are a) very extreme, b) quite offensive and c) I just don't understand your logic most of the time.

Opinion. Others may feel differently.

You are not the only man I have ever "spoken" to.

Your opinions are outdated and controlling.

We are not talking about you, we are talking about her, and what would happen if god forbid she wanted to try something out.

I disagree with this. It's because your views are so extreme. If you were female, and had the same views, you would get entirely the same feedback as you do now. You do tend to appear to look down your nose at people who don't fit your ideals. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, yes, but when you state your opinions to such an extreme that it begins to offend people, you should realise that maybe you need to rein it in a little bit.

Maybe, just maybe, we are very similar in our views and outlook on life. Maybe when we're married we'll do things together and put the other person's best interests and wishes before our own. Maybe we'll be very happy going through life that way.

Maybe others wouldn't - but the main point is, of course, that I don't care or need to consider how other people outside our own relationship look at things as their lives are up to them to run how they choose to.

As usual, because my opinion is different to that of the overwhelming majority female userbase of the board, I'm being made to look the bad guy simply for saying what I think.

WSangeS - I dye my hair because I want to change something easily without chopping my hair (growing it for the wedding) and I wear makeup and do my hair etc because I want to and because it makes me feel good. My OH has said he would love me in a bin bag (bless him) and if I want to make any changes about myself it has to be for myself as I'm the one that has to "put up with it" every day

So you wont answer my question then AJ?

Maybe I am holding myself back. There's a lot of things I'd like to say but choose not to.

Which question is this?

Say it. I dont hold back so why should you?

If she did decide to start wearing make (for whatever reason) what you say? I've asked you three times and you've avoided it every time.

Which bit of "she's not the sort of person that is likely to ever want to wear make up all the time" are you having trouble understanding?

My response (and I should imagine the vast majority of the other responses) have got nothing to do with the contents of my pants. Why bring gender into it? Unless of course it's simply the last refuge of someone who has stated an extreme and dogmatic view and when challenged to back it up with a logical rationale is unable to do so....

But you're not stating your opinion on theoretical situations, as you said that it wouldn't ever happen.

We understand that Caz looks beautiful now. She will look even better on your wedding day as the make up will enhance her best features (whether that be her eyes, lips, or whatever) But what if when Caz has babies, and grows older, she worries about her changing body shape, her wrinkles and feels different? I'm sure the Mums around here will tell you that this changes the way you feel about yourself.

I also think that if a bride said the same things as you, then she'd be challenged too. It's not 'cause you're a groom, it's because you say things to wind us up.

My OH would say that I'm beautiful, with or without make up. But he wouldn't criticise or talk down his nose at people who want to make an effort. And believe me, he's a very traditional, well brought up country guy

What absolute tosh! A Hitcher's (then) H2B joined Hitched once as they so strongly disagreed with what you wrote and wanted to discuss it with you.

My husband finds your opinion's rather strange and controlling.

Two men straight away that don't agree with your opinions.

Any others ladies?

My H has read plenty of your comments, AJ and declared you a controlling w*nker.

And that's not a letter "i" that's starred out there.

It is my opinion that you are a chauvinistic, condescending bigot who looks down his nose on those who do not fit his ideals. You are offensive, your views are extreme and unreasonable, you are like a passive modern-day internet-Hitler. You do yourself absolutely no favours and then cry bully. You seem to be unable to act in a socially acceptable manner. You definitely don't strike me as a good people-person. It's people like you who make Christians look bad.

There, I said it.

I would never say these things to other people because I have respect for others, even if I was thinking them, because they are extreme and offensive views that are best kept to myself. I have quickly been losing all respect I may have had for you.

Surprised to see this thread still in one piece...

Me too.

It's gone so off topic, I thought some posts would get removed - no other reason!

I have two jobs! My evening job I wear uniform which is great because I don't have to mess around trying to find an outfit that matches. It is ok, black pants and a blue shirt

In the day time I am a student nurse so I either wear my white tunic and blue pants or just whatever i want if it's a uni day